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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6890762" data-attributes="member: 8835">I'm a zillion posts late to the game, but I think Maggan gets it.Good listening skills involves detecting what the actual message is, and giving benefit of the doubt.&nbsp; The author of the article's point is that women are being harrassed and worse.&nbsp; I could give a rat's arse about who doesn't like chainmail bikini art.&nbsp; it's art on a piece of paper that you choose to buy or look at or not.&nbsp; But getting spoken to in a disrespectful manner or groped or worse is flat out wrong.I have often wondered (in the offtopic forum even) why the good people of Iraq and Afghanistan put up with the&nbsp; bad guys over there.&nbsp; Surely they too can chop people's heads off and light things on fire, just aimed at the bad guys.&nbsp; But it never works out that way.&nbsp; That's why the KKK is happy to burn a cross on Danny's lawn, but nobody tars and feathers a skin head and drags him down main street.Same problem with bad behavior at cons and game shops.&nbsp; We don't notice it or get involved to stop it or call it out and make a scene.Here's a story that happened to me last week.&nbsp; Not as bad as what this author talks about, but I am ashamed to say I didn't say something.&nbsp; I was on Xbox live, in a party of mixed individuals in a game.&nbsp; Meaning we each knew somebody else, but not everybody knew everbody.&nbsp; Some kid spouts out &quot;Die Jew&quot; and later &quot;KKK&quot; while playing.&nbsp; It happened pretty quick, and I didn't say anything.&nbsp; I should have.I am certain, that we (all of us, male, female, other, reptiles, whites, blacks, Sleestak, etc) do not notice things and do not stop to get involved when we think we might be noticing something.&nbsp; I don't know what it is.&nbsp; Probably social pressure to not make a scene, etc.&nbsp; But we gotta fight it and stand up for anybody getting hurt.&nbsp; Everytime.That might make a scene.&nbsp; That might even start a fight.&nbsp; But Nathaniel Hale once said, &quot;my only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country.&quot;&nbsp; Maybe we all need to take a hint and stick out neck out for our fellow human beings, regardless of the risk.&nbsp; Because Evil wins every time Good stands by and does nothing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6890762, member: 8835"] I'm a zillion posts late to the game, but I think Maggan gets it. Good listening skills involves detecting what the actual message is, and giving benefit of the doubt. The author of the article's point is that women are being harrassed and worse. I could give a rat's arse about who doesn't like chainmail bikini art. it's art on a piece of paper that you choose to buy or look at or not. But getting spoken to in a disrespectful manner or groped or worse is flat out wrong. I have often wondered (in the offtopic forum even) why the good people of Iraq and Afghanistan put up with the bad guys over there. Surely they too can chop people's heads off and light things on fire, just aimed at the bad guys. But it never works out that way. That's why the KKK is happy to burn a cross on Danny's lawn, but nobody tars and feathers a skin head and drags him down main street. Same problem with bad behavior at cons and game shops. We don't notice it or get involved to stop it or call it out and make a scene. Here's a story that happened to me last week. Not as bad as what this author talks about, but I am ashamed to say I didn't say something. I was on Xbox live, in a party of mixed individuals in a game. Meaning we each knew somebody else, but not everybody knew everbody. Some kid spouts out "Die Jew" and later "KKK" while playing. It happened pretty quick, and I didn't say anything. I should have. I am certain, that we (all of us, male, female, other, reptiles, whites, blacks, Sleestak, etc) do not notice things and do not stop to get involved when we think we might be noticing something. I don't know what it is. Probably social pressure to not make a scene, etc. But we gotta fight it and stand up for anybody getting hurt. Everytime. That might make a scene. That might even start a fight. But Nathaniel Hale once said, "my only regret is that I have but one life to give for my country." Maybe we all need to take a hint and stick out neck out for our fellow human beings, regardless of the risk. Because Evil wins every time Good stands by and does nothing. [/QUOTE]

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