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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Revinor" data-source="post: 4556857" data-attributes="member: 25037">My group of 1st level players (but already end of level 1, so most got 1 magic weapon), managed to survive 5th level green dragon... without fighter, who canceled coming at last moment. 4 1st level players, only 1 heavily optimized, rest reasonable, rogue, ranger, wizard and cleric are able to manage 5th level solo <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Obviously, having 6 criticals in first 2 rounds of combat from their side helped... (took 2 rounds to get dragon bloodied and another 8 to kill him).With dragons in particular, main question is amount of cheesy tactics you want to pull off. If you take blue dragon, hover at 21 squares and use lightning burst... you will probably TPK party and nobody will have fun. Play dragon smart, but don't put players in situation where half of people cannot do anything and other half has to use basic attacks. If needed, create an encounter in low ceiling cave - or put chain on dragon leg (long chain, but still). If you take high-attitude fly out of equation, they should manage.</blockquote>