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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GM Dave" data-source="post: 5802369" data-attributes="member: 6687992">A couple of things to think on;1>  The designers announced that all six stats are now going to be used as the basis for saving throws.  This is going to likely push players to have more rounded characters.  This could even become a double edged sword if they allowed attribute trading (2 str for 1 int) like they did in the earlier editions with the random roll.  A character could push for a high attribute but leave themselves vulnerable to saves in another attribute.2>  The designers announced in art that they want to move away from the superhuman image of adventures.  Art usually leads and/or follows design (this case I think it is following).  Racial bonuses are announced as +1 and class bonuses as +1 which is down from 3e and 4e style of thinking.You are also getting more for your +1 from the sounds of it.  The designers seemed to hint that they didn't want the math of [stat -10]/2 to determine the amount of bonus and just go direct to the bonus; so an 18 is not +4 to skills but is an 18 with skill modifying it (like 2e skills).3>  This could suggest a return to something like the 25 being the 'God' limit from 2e and earlier.Then again, if you are attempting a save against say Con and you need to roll your stat or less on d20 then you are already 90% likely to succeed with an 18 Con where as a 26 Con in 3e/4e only gave you a +13 modifier to your roll.The opposite is that a 7 in, say, Dex is going to really be awful.  You have a 35% of making all those dodge saves where you would have only had a -3 to the roll (which rapidly gets reduced in problem by level bonuses).4>  Something like Gauntlets or Girdles could return as the this item gives you X stat (like 18 str with Gauntlets of Ogre power).5>  In the end this is a design decision.  I'm not really pro or con on this.  I've done DnD with both variations.  I think that the Cap limit system is the easier and avoids many of the bloat issues that occurred from multiple stacking which occurred in 3e and some in 4e.</blockquote>

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