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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 4562700" data-attributes="member: 40177"><p>Seconded. I ran an encounter against four 2nd level PCs - two drake swarms, one spitting drake, and one gravehound zombie. I figured it'd be an easy fight for the PCs, since they had a mage. Nope. Those drakes are AWFUL if you don't have someone in the group who can move them.</p><p></p><p>I ran the exact same fight against a different group (different players) who lacked a mage, but had more "move your allies or enemies" abilities, and they had much less of a problem taking out the swarms.</p><p></p><p>***</p><p></p><p>Other problem nasties include a blackscale bruiser lizardfolk with the swordmage class, a ghoul with paladin levels (oh so fun!), and really every other monster with an NPC class tacked on. I had a 3rd level group get chewed to pieces when they figured they were tough enough to take on a much higher level dungeon, and were nearly killed by the first fight - two harpies and two spiked demons. But that's to be expected (and yes, I gave them warnings before they headed that way).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wik, post: 4562700, member: 40177"] Seconded. I ran an encounter against four 2nd level PCs - two drake swarms, one spitting drake, and one gravehound zombie. I figured it'd be an easy fight for the PCs, since they had a mage. Nope. Those drakes are AWFUL if you don't have someone in the group who can move them. I ran the exact same fight against a different group (different players) who lacked a mage, but had more "move your allies or enemies" abilities, and they had much less of a problem taking out the swarms. *** Other problem nasties include a blackscale bruiser lizardfolk with the swordmage class, a ghoul with paladin levels (oh so fun!), and really every other monster with an NPC class tacked on. I had a 3rd level group get chewed to pieces when they figured they were tough enough to take on a much higher level dungeon, and were nearly killed by the first fight - two harpies and two spiked demons. But that's to be expected (and yes, I gave them warnings before they headed that way). [/QUOTE]
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