Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Harm and critical hits...
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="buchw001" data-source="post: 1429902" data-attributes="member: 7662"><p><strong>Here is my two cents</strong></p><p></p><p>I am NOT a writing expert, but I asked the experts from the “Writing Center” at California State University San Marcos as to the interpretation of the following two sentences:</p><p></p><p><em>Harm</em> charges a subject with negative energy that deals 10 points of damage per caster level (to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level). If the creature successfully saves, <em>harm</em> deals half this amount, but it cannot reduce the targets hit points to less than 1.</p><p></p><p>They directed me to page 329 (section 47) of the book Keys for Writer’s – A Brief Handbook which states, "A comma separates <strong>parts</strong> of a sentence; it does not separate one sentence from another".</p><p></p><p>Thus as the spell is written, a character CAN die if the save is failed. This is because the statement <em>it cannot reduce the targets hit points to less than 1</em> is a part of the sentence that contains the statement <em>if the creature successfully saves. </em> </p><p></p><p>This is not my opinion mind you. I truly believe the spell was NOT intended to allow death; however, the sentence structure proves otherwise. As stated before, if there was a semicolon ( ; ) or period ( . ) after the word amount, then the interpretation would be different.</p><p></p><p>For the second question, I believe that BOTH the unarmed damage and the spells damage should be doubled. Unlike the previous discussion I see no intent in the rules otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buchw001, post: 1429902, member: 7662"] [b]Here is my two cents[/b] I am NOT a writing expert, but I asked the experts from the “Writing Center” at California State University San Marcos as to the interpretation of the following two sentences: [I]Harm[/I] charges a subject with negative energy that deals 10 points of damage per caster level (to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level). If the creature successfully saves, [I]harm[/I] deals half this amount, but it cannot reduce the targets hit points to less than 1. They directed me to page 329 (section 47) of the book Keys for Writer’s – A Brief Handbook which states, "A comma separates [B]parts[/B] of a sentence; it does not separate one sentence from another". Thus as the spell is written, a character CAN die if the save is failed. This is because the statement [I]it cannot reduce the targets hit points to less than 1[/I] is a part of the sentence that contains the statement [I]if the creature successfully saves. [/I] This is not my opinion mind you. I truly believe the spell was NOT intended to allow death; however, the sentence structure proves otherwise. As stated before, if there was a semicolon ( ; ) or period ( . ) after the word amount, then the interpretation would be different. For the second question, I believe that BOTH the unarmed damage and the spells damage should be doubled. Unlike the previous discussion I see no intent in the rules otherwise. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Harm and critical hits...
Top