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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gilwen" data-source="post: 1430104" data-attributes="member: 1871">My comments are embedded<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> HTH, GilwenIt wouldn't have killed him outright. Harm will leave them with 1 HP regardless of the damage inflicted....now it would trigger the save from massive damage and if they failed that saving throw it would have killed them...according to the rules, at least the way I read them, your milage may vary.Yes. If there is a roll involved to deliver the spell then they can threat on a natural 20 and then confirm that threat according rules. Disagree. IMHO, they should have made this part "but it cannot reduce the target’s hit points to less than 1." Into it's own sentence.Harm is still pretty nasty especially if delivered with an unarmed or natural weapon. The unarmed attack or natural weapon does it's full damage but it is againist the full AC and might provoke an AOO if using unarmed attacks or natural weapons provokes AOO for you character. For instance if the outsider had opted deliver the spell in this fashion it could have killed the character, since I am sure the outsider could do at least 1 point of damage with an unarmed attack <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> .</blockquote>

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