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<blockquote data-quote="Nichwee" data-source="post: 5117823" data-attributes="member: 84242"><p>Tbh I am saying the wording atm is pointlessly bad. And I would make it one of the following</p><p>1) All the current limits AND doesn't trigger itself.</p><p>2) Once per turn and doesn't tirgger itself.</p><p>3) No limits but doesn't trigger itself.</p><p>The first would make it even weaker (as the feedback to the original target wouldn't go off, so your allies have to get each target hit each round)</p><p>The second would allow it to be done a lot but not give bonus to multiple attacks in a power.</p><p>The thrid would make Rangers smile wickedly, be insanely overpowered and would have a weird interaction with "extra damage" that some items or effects give (these include Hunter's Quarry/Sneak/Curse) as I was told by WotC CS that "extra damage" is a seperate source of damage that doesn't require initial damage* and thus a rogue doing a MBA + Sneak would trigger this effect twice - as he deals MBA damage and Sneak damage to the target seperately.</p><p></p><p>*BTW I think this is a bad call, as it then raises odd questions with a Frost Dagger and Cold Vulnerabilty. As if Sneak Damage is a seperate damage, but is dealt by the Frost Dagger then the vulnerability kicks in twice, if it isn't dealt by the weapon used it may not be effectted by any effect that weapons give the damage THE WEAPON deals. This could cause odd rules interactions</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nichwee, post: 5117823, member: 84242"] Tbh I am saying the wording atm is pointlessly bad. And I would make it one of the following 1) All the current limits AND doesn't trigger itself. 2) Once per turn and doesn't tirgger itself. 3) No limits but doesn't trigger itself. The first would make it even weaker (as the feedback to the original target wouldn't go off, so your allies have to get each target hit each round) The second would allow it to be done a lot but not give bonus to multiple attacks in a power. The thrid would make Rangers smile wickedly, be insanely overpowered and would have a weird interaction with "extra damage" that some items or effects give (these include Hunter's Quarry/Sneak/Curse) as I was told by WotC CS that "extra damage" is a seperate source of damage that doesn't require initial damage* and thus a rogue doing a MBA + Sneak would trigger this effect twice - as he deals MBA damage and Sneak damage to the target seperately. *BTW I think this is a bad call, as it then raises odd questions with a Frost Dagger and Cold Vulnerabilty. As if Sneak Damage is a seperate damage, but is dealt by the Frost Dagger then the vulnerability kicks in twice, if it isn't dealt by the weapon used it may not be effectted by any effect that weapons give the damage THE WEAPON deals. This could cause odd rules interactions [/QUOTE]
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