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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TruffleGrubber" data-source="post: 264374" data-attributes="member: 4463">One last post on this thread and I think that's it for me.  The conversation apears to rapidly degenerating into a circular argument.  LCD:  In my opinion, 3eD&D was written for the LCD of the target market.  This is a rational marketing decision.  This is how you become a WotC and stay that way.  Good marketing.  This is in no way, in my mind, desultory to those that play 3e, of which I am one- on occasion.  In fact I would say they were amazingly successful at it, since I'm one who generally scorns those types of products off hand.  It's a good, versatile and fun system.  Is it 'realistic' (out of the box, so to say), in my opinion- no.  But neither is High Fantasy, so why in the hell would I want a realistic system for a High Fantasy setting?  I say that it is not realistic because of wooden hitpoints and levels, primarily.  The term 'wooden hitpoints' is self-explanitory enough.  Levels provide a stepped progression of characters with sudden rapid jumps in power rather than a smooth progression throughout the character's life.  These two items are something that Harnmaster overcomes elegantly and it is the reason why I like Harnmaster so much for the low-fantasy setting of Harn.  Would I use Harnmaster for KoK?  No, not a chance.  As an aside, I have had thoughts of doing a conversion of it for Warhammer Fantasy, but that's another thread all together.KK is doing some quite interesting things with his d20 Harn (pHarn as we refer to it).  I've run d20 Harn and didn't like it, but I don't think that there is any fault in anyone using whatever system they like with Harn.  The setting is just too good to have people limited by the thought that they have to use this system or that with it.  Something to Note here:  On the Harn Forum I will be a vocal advocate of using Harnmaster with Harn, with many reasons, but in the end I don't disdain anyone who does otherwise.And now I'll be quiet and lurk until something Harnic comes up again <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Good Gaming to you all, regardless of system or setting.**edit**I corrected a couple above, but pardon my abhorrent grammar and spelling.  I'm going to blame it on the Thera-Flu.  Having the flu in the summer is like having hemmarhoids on a long road trip.</blockquote>

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