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<blockquote data-quote="Patrick-S&amp;S" data-source="post: 264469" data-attributes="member: 4633"><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>You are entitled to an opinion of course even if I do not stand behind it. I do not say that you need a degree in English to understand Hârn or that D&D is written for the feeble minded capable of only understanding a mild text version of a game. But I can't for one single moment say that (I am not KK) they are written for the same crowd, not now, not ever. Hârn is written for a different type of gamer, with a different type of background, and often with a dry historical tone that use words, expressions, and statements that not everybody grasp, or likes (most don't). It is not an elitistic game because of it, it is a different game because it caters to a different crowd of people, much like D&D caters to one sort or ten.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I have friends who game other RPGs and they have slight problems understanding the bulk of the Hârn material, while they have no problem reading say Players' Handbook and understanding it all. I am not saying that Hârn is a better system since that is in the eye of the beholder, and I am definately not saying that D&D is crap. But telling me that there is no difference between the two in the writing is not correct. It is almost like there is no difference in a script for two different movies, or books, and ever computer games. And that of course is pure BUNK (or whatever) indeed.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>I have both systems and a few others and IMO it is like with a book, there is a differnce, be it for good or bad. I have had my final say in this matter since it seems to have escalated into something that I feel I haven't fueled. I hope for the people here at EnWorld that you will have a pleasant future gaming/posting since that is what I will have over at the Hârn Forum. I will pop in now and then to add a few d20 downloads for those who use that system in Hârn. Until then game often and well.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patrick-S&S, post: 264469, member: 4633"] [B] You are entitled to an opinion of course even if I do not stand behind it. I do not say that you need a degree in English to understand Hârn or that D&D is written for the feeble minded capable of only understanding a mild text version of a game. But I can't for one single moment say that (I am not KK) they are written for the same crowd, not now, not ever. Hârn is written for a different type of gamer, with a different type of background, and often with a dry historical tone that use words, expressions, and statements that not everybody grasp, or likes (most don't). It is not an elitistic game because of it, it is a different game because it caters to a different crowd of people, much like D&D caters to one sort or ten. I have friends who game other RPGs and they have slight problems understanding the bulk of the Hârn material, while they have no problem reading say Players' Handbook and understanding it all. I am not saying that Hârn is a better system since that is in the eye of the beholder, and I am definately not saying that D&D is crap. But telling me that there is no difference between the two in the writing is not correct. It is almost like there is no difference in a script for two different movies, or books, and ever computer games. And that of course is pure BUNK (or whatever) indeed. I have both systems and a few others and IMO it is like with a book, there is a differnce, be it for good or bad. I have had my final say in this matter since it seems to have escalated into something that I feel I haven't fueled. I hope for the people here at EnWorld that you will have a pleasant future gaming/posting since that is what I will have over at the Hârn Forum. I will pop in now and then to add a few d20 downloads for those who use that system in Hârn. Until then game often and well.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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