Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince point of discussion (Spoilers)

Bloosquig said:
Good catch Mistwell about Neville finding the prophecy and not Harry. Just because its not marked correctly doesn't mean the prophecy itself is confused. :D

It's marked with a question mark actually...even the person who labeled it wasn't sure :)
 

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buzzard said:
No, sorry. Your definition of link is so ambiguous as to be applicable to anyone. There is a direct and powerful link between Harry and Voldemort and that is what the prophecy was talking about. There is nothing even close for Neville. He's one of many who suffered from the depredations of Voldemort. That isn't a link, but a grievance. There's quite a collection of people who had grievances with Voldemort. There's only one with a link.

Here's the prohpecy:
`The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches. born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies . and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not . and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives . the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies .'

It clearly says mark him as his equal. Where's Neville's mark? The prophecy is pretty clear about how the adversary of Voldemort would be chosen by Voldemort, and Harry was obviously chosen.

buzzard

If you find yourself using words like "obviously" and "clearly" concerning prophecy, you might want to refamiliarize yourself with the nature of prophecy :)

Saying "mark him as his equal" does not have to mean "a physical mark placed on the person".

I mark you as my peer. I have not put a physical mark on you, however.

I don't feel certain about my interpretation, but I do think it's one reasonable possible interpretation.
 

Mistwell said:
If you find yourself using words like "obviously" and "clearly" concerning prophecy, you might want to refamiliarize yourself with the nature of prophecy :)

Saying "mark him as his equal" does not have to mean "a physical mark placed on the person".

I mark you as my peer. I have not put a physical mark on you, however.

I don't feel certain about my interpretation, but I do think it's one reasonable possible interpretation.

I disagree, not because Neville lacks a scar, but because he has never really had anything that shows Vold marked him as an equal. Harry's got the scar, he's been attacked at various points, he's important to Vold. Neville probably doesn't even come up in conversation.

Neville's importance to the others around him doesn't mean he's in any way Vold's equal.
 

My wife is certain that Harry and Draco will come to an accord. Not friendship, but grudging respect. Then, Snape will distract Voldemort at a critical moment. Voldemort will kill Snape and Harry. Neville and Draco will move against Voldemort together and kill him.

We've just got our books, so we'll see. :)
 

Baron Opal said:
My wife is certain that Harry and Draco will come to an accord. Not friendship, but grudging respect. Then, Snape will distract Voldemort at a critical moment. Voldemort will kill Snape and Harry. Neville and Draco will move against Voldemort together and kill him.

We've just got our books, so we'll see. :)
Well, you're wife is partly right.
 

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