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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2515123" data-attributes="member: 151">From the alt.Harry_potter FAQ:&quot;It is clear that Dobby and Fawkes do teleport within the castle, but since we have some very&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; firm statements claiming that Apparating is impossible, the question then is whether what they are doing is Apparating&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; or some other kind of teleportative magic, or in other words: is it correct that they can't Apparate or Disapparate&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; inside Hogwarts, or is it not correct?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The answer to this obviously depend to some degree on how you read the books; it has at times been&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; debated heatedly in AFH-P where some hold that if it looks and sounds like Apparating, then it must be&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Apparating. Against this is held that it is extremely unlikely that both Hermione (who is, according to Rowling&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; herself, normally very reliable when citing information from her books&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/potterverse_faq_V.html#Hogwarts_apparating_footnote_1" target="_blank">[1]</a>) and Snape should be wrong. The majority of the posters in AFH-P&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; does seem to think that house-elves (and by extension, Phoenixes) are exceptions from the Apparition ban at Hogwarts;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; either because they are specifically exempted from the protection, or because what they are doing isn't Apparating&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=5sVSa.14945%24Mc.1125520%40newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net" target="_blank">AFH-P 030721</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=20030218180045.04195.00000658%40mb-fj.aol.com" target="_blank">AFH-P 030218</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]. In the latter case it is usually argued that Disapparating/Apparating specifically is the wizard spell or ability, while other kinds of magical teleportation is called by other names (Portkeying, Floo-travelling etc.) [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3F465C0A.37ED216F%40hotmail.com" target="_blank">AFH-P 030822</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=bhspds%24mhe%241%40lust.ihug.co.nz" target="_blank">AFH-P 030819</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3B09EEDD.620CDE98%40charter.net" target="_blank">AFH-P 010521</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=8kqbp0%24j1i%241%40nnrp1.deja.com" target="_blank">AFH-P 000715</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; [&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/potterverse_faq_V.html" target="_blank">AFH-P SDATE</a>&lt;/cite&gt;].&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The question of Dobby's teleportations also came up in an on-line chat with World Book Day on March 4,&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2004[&lt;cite&gt;<a href="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/intvw/20040304_WorldBookDay.html#Question017" target="_blank">WBD-17</a>&lt;/cite&gt;]:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;table style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0em; margin-top: 0em;&quot; class=&quot;noborder&quot; align=&quot;center&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; width=&quot;65%&quot;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;noborder&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;Question (Rorujin):&lt;/td&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;td class=&quot;noborder&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;q&gt;How is Dobby able to Apparate inside Hogwarts if no one else can?&lt;/q&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;noborder&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;Answer:&lt;/td&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;td class=&quot;noborder&quot; valign=&quot;top&quot;&gt;&lt;q&gt;He's a house-elf, they've got powers wizards haven't got (but wizards have also got powers that house-elves haven't).&lt;/q&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The implication is here clearly that the power (or ability) of the house-elves is different from that of the wizards whether we call them both Apparating or not. While Rowling did not actually correct Rorujin's use of &quot;Apparate&quot; for Dobby, she does point out he (and other house-elves) is using a power which &quot;wizards haven't got&quot; — and as wizards very clearly has the power to Apparate ...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; While the above isn't definite with regards to the linguistic side of the argument (whether house-elf&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; teleportation is really called &quot;Apparating&quot;), it is quite clear that whatever it is called, the power is different&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; from wizardly Apparating and that it is this difference which allows house-elves to teleport within Hogwarts.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 2515123, member: 151"] From the alt.Harry_potter FAQ: [i]"It is clear that Dobby and Fawkes [i]do[/i] teleport within the castle, but since we have some very firm statements claiming that Apparating is impossible, the question then is whether what they are doing is Apparating or some other kind of teleportative magic, or in other words: is it correct that they can't Apparate or Disapparate inside Hogwarts, or is it not correct? The answer to this obviously depend to some degree on how you read the books; it has at times been debated heatedly in AFH-P where some hold that if it looks and sounds like Apparating, then it must [i]be[/i] Apparating. Against this is held that it is extremely unlikely that both Hermione (who is, according to Rowling herself, normally very reliable when citing information from her books [url="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/potterverse_faq_V.html#Hogwarts_apparating_footnote_1"][1][/url]) and Snape should be wrong. The majority of the posters in AFH-P does seem to think that house-elves (and by extension, Phoenixes) are exceptions from the Apparition ban at Hogwarts; either because they are specifically exempted from the protection, or because what they are doing isn't Apparating [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=5sVSa.14945%24Mc.1125520%40newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net"]AFH-P 030721[/url]</cite>] [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=20030218180045.04195.00000658%40mb-fj.aol.com"]AFH-P 030218[/url]</cite>]. In the latter case it is usually argued that Disapparating/Apparating specifically is the wizard spell or ability, while other kinds of magical teleportation is called by other names (Portkeying, Floo-travelling etc.) [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3F465C0A.37ED216F%40hotmail.com"]AFH-P 030822[/url]</cite>] [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=bhspds%24mhe%241%40lust.ihug.co.nz"]AFH-P 030819[/url]</cite>] [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=3B09EEDD.620CDE98%40charter.net"]AFH-P 010521[/url]</cite>] [<cite>[url="http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=8kqbp0%24j1i%241%40nnrp1.deja.com"]AFH-P 000715[/url]</cite>] [<cite>[url="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/potterverse_faq_V.html"]AFH-P SDATE[/url]</cite>]. The question of Dobby's teleportations also came up in an on-line chat with World Book Day on March 4, 2004[<cite>[url="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/intvw/20040304_WorldBookDay.html#Question017"]WBD-17[/url]</cite>]: <table style="margin-bottom: 0em; margin-top: 0em;" class="noborder" align="center" cellpadding="3" width="65%"> <tbody><tr><td class="noborder" valign="top">[b]Question (Rorujin):[/b] </td> <td class="noborder" valign="top"><q>How is Dobby able to Apparate inside Hogwarts if no one else can?</q> </td></tr> <tr><td class="noborder" valign="top">[b]Answer:[/b] </td> <td class="noborder" valign="top"><q>He's a house-elf, they've got powers wizards haven't got (but wizards have also got powers that house-elves haven't).</q> </td></tr> </tbody></table> The implication is here clearly that the power (or ability) of the house-elves is different from that of the wizards whether we call them both Apparating or not. While Rowling did not actually correct Rorujin's use of "Apparate" for Dobby, she does point out he (and other house-elves) is using a power which "wizards haven't got" — and as wizards very clearly has the power to Apparate ... While the above isn't definite with regards to the linguistic side of the argument (whether house-elf teleportation is really called "Apparating"), it is quite clear that whatever it is called, the power is different from wizardly Apparating and that it is this difference which allows house-elves to teleport within Hogwarts." [/i] [/QUOTE]

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