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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 1398425" data-attributes="member: 2572">We need sales figures to realy tell if it was a failure or not (and no I do not expect Hasbro to ever release those). Remember though from Chaiinmail, the issue for Hasbro is not whether it makes a profit but how big that profit is.  From everything we have been told about Chainmail it was profitable, just not as profitable as Hasbro wanted. I'm sure 3.5 is profitable, but for Hasbro success or failure is whether it reaches a target goal for profitablity (and we don't know what that goal is). As for me it is a failure. I like so few things about 3.5 that it is not worth it to me. I have gennerally stopped complaining only to help keep things civilized. As for Hasbro they better hope that the percentage of alienated customers like myself are accounted for in the sales forecasts. I bought every book they released for 3.0, I have bought Zero books they have released under 3.5. I know I am not alone in this, the question for them is how many are we and are our numbers an acceptable loss in overall sales?</blockquote>