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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4919836" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>You need to look at the game design here.</p><p></p><p>Cloth is what you get when you suck at AC (unless you're really good at AC because you get a bonus on top of cloth) and have Int/Dex</p><p>Leather is what you get if you're ok at AC and have Int/Dex</p><p>Hide is what you get if you're good at AC and have Int/Dex</p><p>Chain is what you get if you're ok at AC and -don't- have Int/Dex</p><p>Scale is what you get if you're good at AC and don't have Int/Dex</p><p>Plate is what you get if you're really good at AC (and don't have Int/Dex).</p><p></p><p>The only classes that break this rule (that classes that might not have Int or Dex high always have access to heavy armor) are Infernal warlocks and protective shamans. And frankly, both are a bit problematic -- they pretty much need to buy chain proficiency at some level or they're going to be auto-hit at high levels and the defenders won't be able to protect them (kinda like 3rd edition). Of course, there are also the PH2 "use Str/Wis as Int/Dex for AC when wearing light armor" classes -- but that's a way for Wizards to deal with the problems they had in ph1 with warlocks.</p><p></p><p>So all "chain proficiency" means here is that an Invoker might not have a high Int/Dex</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 4919836, member: 59248"] You need to look at the game design here. Cloth is what you get when you suck at AC (unless you're really good at AC because you get a bonus on top of cloth) and have Int/Dex Leather is what you get if you're ok at AC and have Int/Dex Hide is what you get if you're good at AC and have Int/Dex Chain is what you get if you're ok at AC and -don't- have Int/Dex Scale is what you get if you're good at AC and don't have Int/Dex Plate is what you get if you're really good at AC (and don't have Int/Dex). The only classes that break this rule (that classes that might not have Int or Dex high always have access to heavy armor) are Infernal warlocks and protective shamans. And frankly, both are a bit problematic -- they pretty much need to buy chain proficiency at some level or they're going to be auto-hit at high levels and the defenders won't be able to protect them (kinda like 3rd edition). Of course, there are also the PH2 "use Str/Wis as Int/Dex for AC when wearing light armor" classes -- but that's a way for Wizards to deal with the problems they had in ph1 with warlocks. So all "chain proficiency" means here is that an Invoker might not have a high Int/Dex [/QUOTE]
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