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<blockquote data-quote="DM-Rocco" data-source="post: 2499106" data-attributes="member: 14451">Our group was thinking of going to this version, but after much debate, we think it is just too nuts.&nbsp; I think we might take some of the optional rules for grappling, but that may be it.&nbsp; IMO, just play the first version and adjust the pounce to include a +2 damage per 1d6 and keep it a low magic game, that seems to be quite enjoyable.&nbsp;&nbsp;Grrrr...&nbsp;First, I would like to say, I didn't like G&amp;G, but after playing the first version, I do find it fun, make of that what you will.&nbsp;Second, the first edition rules seem to work just fine.&nbsp; When you start getting into the difference between your defense roll and your opponents attack roll as damage, that is getting too nuts.&nbsp; G&amp;G is about more realism and a greater chance of death, but Christ, what where you thinking, that was just nuts?&nbsp;Your first edition rules were deadly enough, no need to go over the top.&nbsp; I haven't seen your 4.0 rules, I refuse to download them.&nbsp; From what I have seen in your description of the rule changes, they are simular to the rules in your free versions.&nbsp; I know that you feel slightly jipped by your other PDFs not getting any money for them, and you do deserve something for that, they are fun to play, but sorry, I won't pay you money for a harsher rules system.&nbsp;Ah, maybe I might give in and buy them just because I have used your other PDFs, just letting out frustration there.&nbsp; However, since I have you on the line, what where you thinking by saything that you can grapple with any weapon?&nbsp; Please explain how you can grapple with a two-handed sword?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DM-Rocco, post: 2499106, member: 14451"] Our group was thinking of going to this version, but after much debate, we think it is just too nuts. I think we might take some of the optional rules for grappling, but that may be it. IMO, just play the first version and adjust the pounce to include a +2 damage per 1d6 and keep it a low magic game, that seems to be quite enjoyable. Grrrr... First, I would like to say, I didn't like G&G, but after playing the first version, I do find it fun, make of that what you will. Second, the first edition rules seem to work just fine. When you start getting into the difference between your defense roll and your opponents attack roll as damage, that is getting too nuts. G&G is about more realism and a greater chance of death, but Christ, what where you thinking, that was just nuts? Your first edition rules were deadly enough, no need to go over the top. I haven't seen your 4.0 rules, I refuse to download them. From what I have seen in your description of the rule changes, they are simular to the rules in your free versions. I know that you feel slightly jipped by your other PDFs not getting any money for them, and you do deserve something for that, they are fun to play, but sorry, I won't pay you money for a harsher rules system. Ah, maybe I might give in and buy them just because I have used your other PDFs, just letting out frustration there. However, since I have you on the line, what where you thinking by saything that you can grapple with any weapon? Please explain how you can grapple with a two-handed sword? [/QUOTE]

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