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Has D&D abandoned the "martial barbarian"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8367832" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>A barbarian is more than that. If we look at <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/barbarian" target="_blank">the actual 5e description of the barbarian</a> it says "These barbarians, different as they might be, are defined by their rage: unbridled, unquenchable, and unthinking fury."</p><p></p><p>Now I don't know the Tarzan mythos that well, but I'm not aware he's defined by his rage.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/ranger" target="_blank">Where?</a> Rangers are noted to protect civilized society but I see absolutely nothing saying they start as part of civilized society.</p><p></p><p>Rangers are however the wilderness experts. Tarzan living in the wilderness and protecting civilized society fits him perfectly. Thematically he's a ranger.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/fighter" target="_blank">Since when?</a> If we look at the fighter description we see "All of these heroes are fighters, perhaps the most diverse class of characters in the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons. Questing knights, conquering overlords, royal champions, elite foot soldiers, hardened mercenaries, and bandit kings—as fighters, they all share an unparalleled mastery with weapons and armor, and a thorough knowledge of the skills of combat."</p><p></p><p>Nothing in there says that fighters have to be civilized - and bandit kings generally aren't considered so.</p><p></p><p>What defines fighters is their mastery of fighting and of the skills of combat. What defines barbarians is their rage. Neither of these are necessarily connected to where they live.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8367832, member: 87792"] A barbarian is more than that. If we look at [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/barbarian']the actual 5e description of the barbarian[/URL] it says "These barbarians, different as they might be, are defined by their rage: unbridled, unquenchable, and unthinking fury." Now I don't know the Tarzan mythos that well, but I'm not aware he's defined by his rage. [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/ranger']Where?[/URL] Rangers are noted to protect civilized society but I see absolutely nothing saying they start as part of civilized society. Rangers are however the wilderness experts. Tarzan living in the wilderness and protecting civilized society fits him perfectly. Thematically he's a ranger. [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/fighter']Since when?[/URL] If we look at the fighter description we see "All of these heroes are fighters, perhaps the most diverse class of characters in the worlds of Dungeons & Dragons. Questing knights, conquering overlords, royal champions, elite foot soldiers, hardened mercenaries, and bandit kings—as fighters, they all share an unparalleled mastery with weapons and armor, and a thorough knowledge of the skills of combat." Nothing in there says that fighters have to be civilized - and bandit kings generally aren't considered so. What defines fighters is their mastery of fighting and of the skills of combat. What defines barbarians is their rage. Neither of these are necessarily connected to where they live. [/QUOTE]
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