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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8368265" data-attributes="member: 87792">If you'd said disciplined I might have agreed with you. But certainly in 3.0 and 3.5 the fighter is the character least likely to know anything outside their supposed discipline; 2+Int skill points per level don't go very far, especially in a system where climb, jump, swim, handle animal, balance, ride, and tumble are all separate skills and they have no knowledge skills on their class list . At least the barbarian got 4+Int skills and survival on their list. In 4e again the fighter has the lowest number of class skills in the game (3) but at least can match the barbarian here, and climb, jump, and swim are covered by a single skill. And there are no skills on the fighter list covering knowing your enemy.The 5e fighter is better. I mean they are still sitting in joint last in terms of skills they are proficient in, but history and survival are at least on their class list. Still, learned they aren't.Now if you were to say the fighter is the disciplined warrior who spends lots of their time training I might agree with you. But 3.X fighters are narrowly specialised rather than more generally trained. (4e fighters on the other hand are people deadly enough to take advantage of any time the enemy takes their eyes off them.)</blockquote>