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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 3799270" data-attributes="member: 10177">All I can say is I have also been gaming for over 22 years. I played 3E for almost 5 years before "going back". In my going back I have reread every system to adapt to C&C. All I can tell you is my gaming experience is MUCH different than it was with 3E now that I have gone more "old style". So I would say to you, and everyone else who claims the 3E experience is the "same", go back to playing old style for a couple of months. Why a couple of months? Because that is how long it took me to get the 3E mindset out of my system. So I am assuming it will take that long for others. It may even take longer because I quit playing, period, for almost 6 months before I picked up C&C. So that may have helped me "detoxify" from 3E is as well. Still, experiences differ for various people. I went to C&C because I remembered having a lot of fun back with the older editions, and I knew it wasn't the same fun I had with 3E, plus only 3E burned me out to the point of wanting to quite RPG's forever.So I went "retro" and am having the best gaming fun of my life with D&D/C&C. Even my kids don't want to go back to 3E. Why? Simply because 3E isn't worth the effort. We get the fun we want out of our house ruled C&C.So due to my experiences, I would say that the "perception" that 3E is as fun, or even more fun, than older editions has a lot to due with human memory being "bad".Do the older editions have all the problems so many people mention? Yes. But you know what? Its a heck of a lot easier to write up a page or two of "fixes" and play them than it is to "fix" 3E.Still, it also depends on what you like about a game. Many people like rules intensive game systems. I don't. Its why I never became a fan of "Rolemaster" or "Chivalry and Sorcery". I liked them, but the extra effort wasn't worth it. I liked "simple" but "gets the job done". 3E is simply too complex for me. I have gone back to "simple and gets the job done".So, bottom line is, there are certainly "similarities" between the editions, but they are far from being the same. Rules wise, feel wise, play wise, etc...</blockquote>

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