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<blockquote data-quote="scadgrad" data-source="post: 2349187" data-attributes="member: 766"><p>Kind of like the way soccer or perhaps chess has stagnated over the years right? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Just kidding there Kane, but you get my point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think D&D jumped the shark with Thieves and Thieving Yumminess or whatever it was called; same dark and twisty road that we went down w/ 2nd ed Complete Book of Craptasticness <shudders>. Look, the assumption that the company <strong>MUST</strong> continue to add to the complexity of the game lest it become stale is flawed by my way of thinking. I'm sure there is a growing legion of customers who are actually quite sick of this trend and have moved onto other things (certainly TLG and Green Ronin are hoping so). I believe that through the seemingly endless procession of feats, ubermind spell of death, PrCs, etc. that Wot$ is fracturing its market just like TSR did. To my mind, there's really no difference between Races of Stone and <insert stupid TSR-produced box set from the 90s here>. The only difference being that some clever MBA had the good sense to realize that hardbacks are easier for gamers to store/carry than box sets. Genius!</p><p></p><p>And while our friends such as Kanegrundar will continue to drop their coin on virtually <strong>anything</strong> that Wot$ trots out, as long as it has interesting crunch, there are plenty of folks like myself who are decidedly "off the reservation." I used to be a huge customer of Wot$, but I've bought only 1 book this entire year and am now a bit disappointed that I even bought that one. I do continue to support other publishers, particularly those that put out quality adventures, but at this point, I think I've plenty of crunchy bits to choose from.</p><p></p><p>Oh, a bit OT I know, but I couldn't help but ring in on Monte's Mark spells; love those. Monte's Eldritch Might series is the definitive spell supplement imho.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scadgrad, post: 2349187, member: 766"] Kind of like the way soccer or perhaps chess has stagnated over the years right? ;) Just kidding there Kane, but you get my point. I think D&D jumped the shark with Thieves and Thieving Yumminess or whatever it was called; same dark and twisty road that we went down w/ 2nd ed Complete Book of Craptasticness <shudders>. Look, the assumption that the company [b]MUST[/b] continue to add to the complexity of the game lest it become stale is flawed by my way of thinking. I'm sure there is a growing legion of customers who are actually quite sick of this trend and have moved onto other things (certainly TLG and Green Ronin are hoping so). I believe that through the seemingly endless procession of feats, ubermind spell of death, PrCs, etc. that Wot$ is fracturing its market just like TSR did. To my mind, there's really no difference between Races of Stone and <insert stupid TSR-produced box set from the 90s here>. The only difference being that some clever MBA had the good sense to realize that hardbacks are easier for gamers to store/carry than box sets. Genius! And while our friends such as Kanegrundar will continue to drop their coin on virtually [b]anything[/b] that Wot$ trots out, as long as it has interesting crunch, there are plenty of folks like myself who are decidedly "off the reservation." I used to be a huge customer of Wot$, but I've bought only 1 book this entire year and am now a bit disappointed that I even bought that one. I do continue to support other publishers, particularly those that put out quality adventures, but at this point, I think I've plenty of crunchy bits to choose from. Oh, a bit OT I know, but I couldn't help but ring in on Monte's Mark spells; love those. Monte's Eldritch Might series is the definitive spell supplement imho. [/QUOTE]
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