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Message: <blockquote data-quote="scadgrad" data-source="post: 2349710" data-attributes="member: 766">Certainly they're rules that the DM must consider since his Dwarf player (for instance) wants to play them so badly. You make a good point that in certain instances they could make the game less complex, but by their very nature they do indeed make the game a more complex system of rules since, if for no other reason, one must read and consider their effects on ones game before passing judgement either way.In essence, I believe I could say that, though I seem to be in the minority here, even if one embraces all the new WotC optional books as a "Good Thing" (thank you Martha) and in no way, shape, or form do they add complexity to the game, one would have to admit that at the very least they do add to the enormity of the DM's task as final arbitrator of the game your particular group is playing.Whew... what a sentence that.So, perhaps it's just me, but since I am firmly in the More Crunch From WotC=DMs Job Harder camp, I see this as making the game more complex. Seems logical to me, but as always YMMV...</blockquote>