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<blockquote data-quote="Razuur" data-source="post: 1188424" data-attributes="member: 1997">Josh:I get you ike the classes, the problem is you are one of the few people I know who do.&nbsp; I, like spatula, like the theory behind the classes, the money system, etc.&nbsp; But the theory doesn't excite my players.&nbsp; they see boring.&nbsp; They see, I just stole his wallet, how does that affect my wealth?&nbsp; They see d&amp;D monsters in a modern setting - which they think is ssoooooo stupid.Ranger:having all of those D&amp;D monsters sets an atmosphere.&nbsp; Arguably, most people who have the D20M book proibably have the monster manual.&nbsp; It was a waste of space. Like d4 and garyh, it really feels like D&amp;D in the modern world.Now that said, D&amp;D takes a particular slant on fantasy - magic casting rangers, clerics vs priests, magic abounding....&nbsp; I guess, D20 modern isn't the generic toolkit, but the D&amp;D feel in the Modern world, complete with kobalds and gnolls and mind flayers.&nbsp; That is great if that is what you are looking for, but I think that most people are looking for a generic D20, which it tries to do, just not well.On top of that, compared to the fantasy genre, the D20 modern industry is really just not taking off like its older brother.&nbsp; WOTC and 3rd party publishers are not really putting out an aggressive schedule.Razuur</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Razuur, post: 1188424, member: 1997"] Josh: I get you ike the classes, the problem is you are one of the few people I know who do. I, like spatula, like the theory behind the classes, the money system, etc. But the theory doesn't excite my players. they see boring. They see, I just stole his wallet, how does that affect my wealth? They see d&D monsters in a modern setting - which they think is ssoooooo stupid. Ranger: having all of those D&D monsters sets an atmosphere. Arguably, most people who have the D20M book proibably have the monster manual. It was a waste of space. Like d4 and garyh, it really feels like D&D in the modern world. Now that said, D&D takes a particular slant on fantasy - magic casting rangers, clerics vs priests, magic abounding.... I guess, D20 modern isn't the generic toolkit, but the D&D feel in the Modern world, complete with kobalds and gnolls and mind flayers. That is great if that is what you are looking for, but I think that most people are looking for a generic D20, which it tries to do, just not well. On top of that, compared to the fantasy genre, the D20 modern industry is really just not taking off like its older brother. WOTC and 3rd party publishers are not really putting out an aggressive schedule. Razuur [/QUOTE]

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