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<blockquote data-quote="Dykstrav" data-source="post: 5217974" data-attributes="member: 40522"><p>First of all, I'd like to thank everyone so far for their input. I had a strong suspicion that this situation was weighted a bit toward one end of the bell curve, and I think I've had that suspicion confirmed.</p><p></p><p>The situation has surprised me. I've never really had someone tell me that my character sheet had to be standardized before, and I think there are perhaps other factors in play. After all, whenever I DM for 4E, none of my players have ever complained about me not having an Insider account.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is really a two-part issue to me. First of all... Honestly, I feel that relying on a computer to do things for you is a bad thing. For some people, it enables them to shirk responsibility, or at least, indulge in sloth or ignorance. I sort of got turned off to the character builder when I had a player still playing their character at second level when the party level was at fifth--because the player assumed that I was able to update their experience totals through Insider and the application would notify them when they leveled up. Despite the fact that I didn't have Insider at all, it was still construed as "my fault" because I didn't tell someone that I can't give them experience on Insider. But that's only one extreme incident among many... </p><p></p><p>My single biggest issue with the character generator is that I have no control over the format or layout of the character sheet. I don't like power cards, I can make a simple Microsoft Word document on one or two pages that contains everything I need in a very compact space. I don't have to worry about losing a power card during the week or eat up my ink cartridge printing a bunch of blank lines, much less five pages every time my character levels up. I might consider using the character builder if it ever allows for any degree of control over the layout and formatting. But this is a bit off-topic.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I've purchased several hundred dollars worth of 4E materials, and honestly, I don't want to spend any amount of cash (even $1.00) on an application to print a character sheet that isn't intuitive for me and that I don't like. I'm perfectly happy with my own character sheet format.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I hadn't really considered this angle, but reflecting on my own experiences as a DM, there may be a grain or two of truth to this. It is indeed a pretty common occasion for a player to not add a proficiency bonus, or to not add half their level, or to not add something from a feat or whatever. Very insightful and helpful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dykstrav, post: 5217974, member: 40522"] First of all, I'd like to thank everyone so far for their input. I had a strong suspicion that this situation was weighted a bit toward one end of the bell curve, and I think I've had that suspicion confirmed. The situation has surprised me. I've never really had someone tell me that my character sheet had to be standardized before, and I think there are perhaps other factors in play. After all, whenever I DM for 4E, none of my players have ever complained about me not having an Insider account. This is really a two-part issue to me. First of all... Honestly, I feel that relying on a computer to do things for you is a bad thing. For some people, it enables them to shirk responsibility, or at least, indulge in sloth or ignorance. I sort of got turned off to the character builder when I had a player still playing their character at second level when the party level was at fifth--because the player assumed that I was able to update their experience totals through Insider and the application would notify them when they leveled up. Despite the fact that I didn't have Insider at all, it was still construed as "my fault" because I didn't tell someone that I can't give them experience on Insider. But that's only one extreme incident among many... My single biggest issue with the character generator is that I have no control over the format or layout of the character sheet. I don't like power cards, I can make a simple Microsoft Word document on one or two pages that contains everything I need in a very compact space. I don't have to worry about losing a power card during the week or eat up my ink cartridge printing a bunch of blank lines, much less five pages every time my character levels up. I might consider using the character builder if it ever allows for any degree of control over the layout and formatting. But this is a bit off-topic. Anyway, I've purchased several hundred dollars worth of 4E materials, and honestly, I don't want to spend any amount of cash (even $1.00) on an application to print a character sheet that isn't intuitive for me and that I don't like. I'm perfectly happy with my own character sheet format. I hadn't really considered this angle, but reflecting on my own experiences as a DM, there may be a grain or two of truth to this. It is indeed a pretty common occasion for a player to not add a proficiency bonus, or to not add half their level, or to not add something from a feat or whatever. Very insightful and helpful. [/QUOTE]
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