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<blockquote data-quote="Festivus" data-source="post: 5218625" data-attributes="member: 34532"><p>There is a generator out there for just about any system (Heroforge, Star Wars SAGA, etc). Leveling up in 4E is remarkably simple however, and doesn't really require a computer to see if something is wrong... except when you start to add in feats, magic items, class features, etc. For example, my level 10 rogue has Sly Flourish +21 vs AC with combat advantage... does that seem high to you? +5 for half level, +5 for dex bonus, +3 for weapon magic bonus, +3 for proficiency, +1 weapon expertise feat, +1 Rogue weapon talent, +2 combat advantage, +1 nimble blade feat. </p><p></p><p>It could be pretty easy to miss any one of those bonuses when figuring it out without the computer there to catch everything. While I can still do this on paper, why would I bother to when there is a computer there that can do it for me? It's not like computers are going to go away anytime soon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't get this either, "dangerous"? Really? In what way? If you are having fun playing it does it really matter how you arrive at that fun? The only way I could see this being even remotely dangerous to the hobby is if WoTC went to a pay to access model (which they don't have, you can download and use the software forever right now). If they went to that, something akin to Heroforge would arise and take it's place, and I think Wizards knows this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Festivus, post: 5218625, member: 34532"] There is a generator out there for just about any system (Heroforge, Star Wars SAGA, etc). Leveling up in 4E is remarkably simple however, and doesn't really require a computer to see if something is wrong... except when you start to add in feats, magic items, class features, etc. For example, my level 10 rogue has Sly Flourish +21 vs AC with combat advantage... does that seem high to you? +5 for half level, +5 for dex bonus, +3 for weapon magic bonus, +3 for proficiency, +1 weapon expertise feat, +1 Rogue weapon talent, +2 combat advantage, +1 nimble blade feat. It could be pretty easy to miss any one of those bonuses when figuring it out without the computer there to catch everything. While I can still do this on paper, why would I bother to when there is a computer there that can do it for me? It's not like computers are going to go away anytime soon. I don't get this either, "dangerous"? Really? In what way? If you are having fun playing it does it really matter how you arrive at that fun? The only way I could see this being even remotely dangerous to the hobby is if WoTC went to a pay to access model (which they don't have, you can download and use the software forever right now). If they went to that, something akin to Heroforge would arise and take it's place, and I think Wizards knows this. [/QUOTE]
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