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Has Monte Cook made 4th ed Unnecessary?
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<blockquote data-quote="Harkun" data-source="post: 4084246" data-attributes="member: 60804"><p>Oh I don't think that is the case at all. As for who COULD do it, I think you have several options. Not only could Monte and Malhovoc Press handle a serious alt to 4th ed (after all he offered a serious alt to 3rd and 3.5 that became very popular), you also have companies like Green Ronin and to a lesser extent Mongoose. Green Ronin in fact already has a alternate system called True 20 which solves many if not most of the 3rd/3.5 issues. Not to mention their success with Mutants and Masterminds they could do it as well.</p><p></p><p>The question is WOULD any of these companies do it and actually I'm just not sure, and no matter how good the system was, I just don't know if it would reach the level of 4th ed usage. The reason why I brought up the question is because of the special scenario that I see developing. The problem is (1) that the genie that is the OGL is already out of the bottle and (2) people don't like to spend money and buy new books especially when they can get stuff for free or cheaper. </p><p></p><p>As good as the ideas are that 4th ed is bringing to us they are not unique to the gaming industry. Mongoose Publishing has already published their own Players handbook (the pocket guide) which they sell for 20 bucks (10 now I think) which is just a publishing of the SRD essentially. The OGL allows you to edit the SRD and add things to make your own game, there is nothing stopping anyone from simply adding some of the 4th ed elements (similar to say what monte has done, which is OGL by the way) and reissuing that as a Players Handbook. Essentially you would have a system virtually the same as 4th but made from a modified 3.5 SRD and you could publish it under the OGL. So you are calling healing surges something else....like "second breath." The name can be different and the mechanics slightly so but if it gets you to the same place what is the difference?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harkun, post: 4084246, member: 60804"] Oh I don't think that is the case at all. As for who COULD do it, I think you have several options. Not only could Monte and Malhovoc Press handle a serious alt to 4th ed (after all he offered a serious alt to 3rd and 3.5 that became very popular), you also have companies like Green Ronin and to a lesser extent Mongoose. Green Ronin in fact already has a alternate system called True 20 which solves many if not most of the 3rd/3.5 issues. Not to mention their success with Mutants and Masterminds they could do it as well. The question is WOULD any of these companies do it and actually I'm just not sure, and no matter how good the system was, I just don't know if it would reach the level of 4th ed usage. The reason why I brought up the question is because of the special scenario that I see developing. The problem is (1) that the genie that is the OGL is already out of the bottle and (2) people don't like to spend money and buy new books especially when they can get stuff for free or cheaper. As good as the ideas are that 4th ed is bringing to us they are not unique to the gaming industry. Mongoose Publishing has already published their own Players handbook (the pocket guide) which they sell for 20 bucks (10 now I think) which is just a publishing of the SRD essentially. The OGL allows you to edit the SRD and add things to make your own game, there is nothing stopping anyone from simply adding some of the 4th ed elements (similar to say what monte has done, which is OGL by the way) and reissuing that as a Players Handbook. Essentially you would have a system virtually the same as 4th but made from a modified 3.5 SRD and you could publish it under the OGL. So you are calling healing surges something else....like "second breath." The name can be different and the mechanics slightly so but if it gets you to the same place what is the difference? [/QUOTE]
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