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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5120879" data-attributes="member: 80487">How hard is this to understand? It is mathematically the same thing!Where do you get the &quot;level/stat-dependent bonus&quot; peculiar to a situation? Where do you get the number indicating just how high is necessary?If they just &gt;poof&lt; out of thin air, then you can do the same hand-waving in AD&amp;D. Otherwise, you had to look them up somewhere originally, which is no less than your very &quot;complaint&quot; about the old game.You say &quot;tuh-mah-toe&quot; and I say &quot;tuh-may-toe&quot; -- but it's still three syllables.You brought up the topic of different formats, and their relation to improvisation. How they are 'isolated&quot; is not clear.And I stand by my assessment that the parts in bold are a false dichotomy. AD&amp;D has as much &quot;unification&quot;, and 3e is a congeries of more different sub-systems.The multiplication of rules in 3e is in fact an advantage, if one happens to find being able to look up the particulars more a boon than the sense of &quot;needing&quot; to do so at the drop of an Attack of Opportunity is a bane.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5120879, member: 80487"] How hard is this to understand? It is mathematically [b]the same thing![/b] Where do you get the "level/stat-dependent bonus" peculiar to a situation? Where do you get the number indicating [i]just how high[/i] is necessary? If they just >poof< out of thin air, then you can do the same hand-waving in AD&D. Otherwise, [b]you had to look them up somewhere originally[/b], which is no less than your very "complaint" about the old game. You say "tuh-[i]mah[/i]-toe" and I say "tuh-[i]may[/i]-toe" -- but it's still three syllables. [b]You[/b] brought up the topic of different formats, and their relation to improvisation. How they are 'isolated" is not clear. And I stand by my assessment that the parts in bold are a false dichotomy. AD&D has as much "unification", and 3e is a congeries of [i]more[/i] different sub-systems. The multiplication of rules in 3e is in fact an advantage, [i]if[/i] one happens to find being able to look up the particulars more a boon than the sense of "needing" to do so at the drop of an Attack of Opportunity is a bane. [/QUOTE]

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