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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5077994" data-attributes="member: 52734">I've tried 4E now about four times*, and each time it left a sour taste in my mouth.  The game has just completely gone in a different direction I look for in an RPG.  Which is kind of sad, because there were many things about 4E that were things I'd thought I wanted to see more of (mini use, more dramatic combats, skill challenges), but that in practice I despise how they've done.And the GSL hasn't helped.  I had just gotten out my first OGL/d20 product about a month prior to when the whole 4E announcement came out.  The good news is, it made me decide to work up my own RPG instead and move everything I wanted to create to that game system.* I was considering getting Dark Sun and trying again, but the preview characters were a real turn-off.</blockquote>