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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 5078212" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>This particular bridge was burned a while back, probably even before 4e was released, based on various statements by the developers and their design focus on their forthcoming game. What they did to FR only drove further nails in the coffin lid.</p><p></p><p>It's a shame, because I remember during 3e of having hopes for what a possible 4e might be able to bring to the game, and might remedy a few things I found lacking in the system from a flavor or design perspective. Unfortunately what they did was take those things I found lacking or didn't like and make them even more pronounced. They went the complete opposite direction at warp speed than I'd hoped for.</p><p></p><p>The night before the public release of 4e, I found out what was going to happen regarding it and what the DDI was going to be. First words out of my mouth were something along the lines of, "What the hell? Those idiots are years too early. They're going to fracture their base and damage their own IP in the process. What the hell were they thinking?" Obviously there were more expletives, but I'm not sure my initial knee-jerk thoughts haven't been correct based on what has happened since then.</p><p></p><p>At this stage the only implausible way for me to appreciate 4e might be either for a public apology about the handling of several topics (FR, marketing, etc) and/or the release of a 4e rules Planescape setting that was allowed to continue to use its own cosmology and not forced to incorporate the history and tropes of the 4e default world - and letting me write part of it wouldn't hurt either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 5078212, member: 11697"] This particular bridge was burned a while back, probably even before 4e was released, based on various statements by the developers and their design focus on their forthcoming game. What they did to FR only drove further nails in the coffin lid. It's a shame, because I remember during 3e of having hopes for what a possible 4e might be able to bring to the game, and might remedy a few things I found lacking in the system from a flavor or design perspective. Unfortunately what they did was take those things I found lacking or didn't like and make them even more pronounced. They went the complete opposite direction at warp speed than I'd hoped for. The night before the public release of 4e, I found out what was going to happen regarding it and what the DDI was going to be. First words out of my mouth were something along the lines of, "What the hell? Those idiots are years too early. They're going to fracture their base and damage their own IP in the process. What the hell were they thinking?" Obviously there were more expletives, but I'm not sure my initial knee-jerk thoughts haven't been correct based on what has happened since then. At this stage the only implausible way for me to appreciate 4e might be either for a public apology about the handling of several topics (FR, marketing, etc) and/or the release of a 4e rules Planescape setting that was allowed to continue to use its own cosmology and not forced to incorporate the history and tropes of the 4e default world - and letting me write part of it wouldn't hurt either. [/QUOTE]
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