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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5085004" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Nah, the target demo needs to stay fresh and young. I don't mind getting away from the staid elf/dwarf races (though in my mind, they should've kept the eladrin and half-elves out, included the gnomes, and jettisoned their weird halflings). My main issue with the Dragonborn is their horrible name, and my main issue with the Tieflings is their horrible art, but I think they're fine additions to the core game (though admittedly not really great for Tolkeinesque high fantasy, but then, there's more than that out there now). </p><p></p><p>But even with those issues, I play and DM 4e. I'm on board the ship, I guess. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think hybrid rules and Dark Sun are great additions -- they make me happier than FR and power splatbooks anyway. Since I'm not a newbie, I don't have any interest in the Red Box, but the hobby can always use new blood. I like some of 4e well enough to not want to switch back (buffs alone almost do this for me), but I don't have the same feeling with 4e that I did with 3e, of this being THE GAME FOR ME.</p><p></p><p>I'm not loyal to 4e like I was to 3e. I'm looking at and playing with other systems. And FFZ is off the ground, now (though a bit rough around the edges, and in need of some work on the DM's side and some playtesting), and I'm figuring out where I want to take it. </p><p></p><p>This new horse is sleeker than the last one, much more efficient, though I think it lacks the character of that slightly awkward pony we left in the Pathfinder stables. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5085004, member: 2067"] Nah, the target demo needs to stay fresh and young. I don't mind getting away from the staid elf/dwarf races (though in my mind, they should've kept the eladrin and half-elves out, included the gnomes, and jettisoned their weird halflings). My main issue with the Dragonborn is their horrible name, and my main issue with the Tieflings is their horrible art, but I think they're fine additions to the core game (though admittedly not really great for Tolkeinesque high fantasy, but then, there's more than that out there now). But even with those issues, I play and DM 4e. I'm on board the ship, I guess. ;) I think hybrid rules and Dark Sun are great additions -- they make me happier than FR and power splatbooks anyway. Since I'm not a newbie, I don't have any interest in the Red Box, but the hobby can always use new blood. I like some of 4e well enough to not want to switch back (buffs alone almost do this for me), but I don't have the same feeling with 4e that I did with 3e, of this being THE GAME FOR ME. I'm not loyal to 4e like I was to 3e. I'm looking at and playing with other systems. And FFZ is off the ground, now (though a bit rough around the edges, and in need of some work on the DM's side and some playtesting), and I'm figuring out where I want to take it. This new horse is sleeker than the last one, much more efficient, though I think it lacks the character of that slightly awkward pony we left in the Pathfinder stables. ;) [/QUOTE]
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