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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9513787" data-attributes="member: 18">This is not correct.What you seem to be missing is that, three months after that tweet, Vincke went on stage and ranted for some time about the greed of companies is what leads to layoffs, and how dumb and stupid it was - this was about the videogame industry in general, but the idea that he wasn't thinking of WotC when he said this, despite having tweeted about WotC doing precisely that was laughable.Further, he hasn't said "multiple times" that it wasn't WotC AFAICT, he's said it once (or possibly twice), and it was very clearly an attempt to be diplomatic and reasonable. But the problem for people who want to believe WotC are saintly angels here is that he's also contradicted another claim he made around when he said it wasn't WotC.So, Swen's original story, his diplomatic story, was that he went to his employees, after BG3 and before they'd started on anything else, and asked if they wanted to keep making BG stuff, and they said no. He was vague about the timing of this.Then more recently, I believe after he went on the "greed" rant about layoffs at a game show, he revealed that in fact Larian actually had started work on BG4, and was some way into pre-production when they decided not to make BG3, and the timing he indicated would be necessarily after WotC fired everyone they'd worked with.So I find it laughable wishful thinking to believe that Larian abandoning BG4 after starting work on it (pretty early work, sure), and after WotC fired everyone, has no connection to WotC firing everyone, especially given the (admittedly later) context of the head of Larian ranting about how layoffs are the result of greed, had absolutely nothing to do with WotC.And others in videogames have been more direct - Josh Sawyer for example, outright stated that he'd never work with WotC, and he is not an intemperate or angry man - quite the contrary! To get him to make a statement like that would require considerable distaste.</blockquote>

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