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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9515675" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It didn't "fail". We know for a fact from Steam, given the sales position it maintained, and how long it maintained it, that it sold at least "very well". Better than a lot of recent games that no-one is trying to pretend are not "successes".</p><p></p><p>The whole "failed game" thing is an anti-"woke" talking point that was largely cooked up by two YouTubers, one of them a well-know ally of the alt-right (MrMattyPlays), who is also a serial liar (provably) and serial leaker, and the other of whom is a good buddy of his (who works for Skill Up). They both did hit pieces on Veilguard, and I do mean literal hit pieces, where they carefully edited and curated footage to try and make the game look as bad as possible (something it's easily shown not to be if you watch an actual stream).</p><p></p><p>MrMattyPlays also intentionally leaked probably the weakest bit of dialogue in the entire game (via one of his editors, who he claimed was the leaker, but mysteriously hasn't fired!) to try and prime the pump. Something he's done before, I note. BioWare were frankly stupid to send him a review copy, but that'll be down to some poor researcher who was trying to work out who the right YouTubers to send review copies to.</p><p></p><p>Compounding the issue is that a lot of Useful Idiots wanted to get on the bandwagon because of two things about the game:</p><p></p><p>1) As I pointed out above, Rook is only given options for a sane and decent person. This is similar to Shepard or Hawke (and to a lesser extent Hero Of Ferelden), in that they have an established personality and a specific role in the game, and frankly Rook is straight-up better-written than the Inquisitor in DAI, but it does limit your options, especially compared to the recent BG3. This particularly offended a lot of people who wanted to be very nasty to the non-binary character. I'm not exaggerating to be clear - I can find you countless "Why can't I be mean to Taash?!?!?!? She's so annoying!!" (misgendering theirs)</p><p></p><p>2) I won't go into any spoilers, but some long-time players didn't like the lore revelations because they conflicted with the headcanon they'd build up in the nearly 10 years since DAI. Actual lore experts like Ghil Dirthalen (who has an entire YouTube channel about DA's lore) generally loved DAV, because they understand the difference between canon and headcanon, and aren't offended when canon that wasn't what they assumed or wanted to be true is revealed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9515675, member: 18"] It didn't "fail". We know for a fact from Steam, given the sales position it maintained, and how long it maintained it, that it sold at least "very well". Better than a lot of recent games that no-one is trying to pretend are not "successes". The whole "failed game" thing is an anti-"woke" talking point that was largely cooked up by two YouTubers, one of them a well-know ally of the alt-right (MrMattyPlays), who is also a serial liar (provably) and serial leaker, and the other of whom is a good buddy of his (who works for Skill Up). They both did hit pieces on Veilguard, and I do mean literal hit pieces, where they carefully edited and curated footage to try and make the game look as bad as possible (something it's easily shown not to be if you watch an actual stream). MrMattyPlays also intentionally leaked probably the weakest bit of dialogue in the entire game (via one of his editors, who he claimed was the leaker, but mysteriously hasn't fired!) to try and prime the pump. Something he's done before, I note. BioWare were frankly stupid to send him a review copy, but that'll be down to some poor researcher who was trying to work out who the right YouTubers to send review copies to. Compounding the issue is that a lot of Useful Idiots wanted to get on the bandwagon because of two things about the game: 1) As I pointed out above, Rook is only given options for a sane and decent person. This is similar to Shepard or Hawke (and to a lesser extent Hero Of Ferelden), in that they have an established personality and a specific role in the game, and frankly Rook is straight-up better-written than the Inquisitor in DAI, but it does limit your options, especially compared to the recent BG3. This particularly offended a lot of people who wanted to be very nasty to the non-binary character. I'm not exaggerating to be clear - I can find you countless "Why can't I be mean to Taash?!?!?!? She's so annoying!!" (misgendering theirs) 2) I won't go into any spoilers, but some long-time players didn't like the lore revelations because they conflicted with the headcanon they'd build up in the nearly 10 years since DAI. Actual lore experts like Ghil Dirthalen (who has an entire YouTube channel about DA's lore) generally loved DAV, because they understand the difference between canon and headcanon, and aren't offended when canon that wasn't what they assumed or wanted to be true is revealed. [/QUOTE]
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