Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Hasbro makes money, everyone wins
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5376739" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>Wrong.</p><p></p><p>It takes one person who says 'I'd rather download than buy the book' to prove the case of lost revenue.  This is the elephant in the room, is the existance of this one guy.  For all the talk of 'benefits of piracy', this one guy is the guy you have to acknowledge, cause he's the guy who is the center of the argument, and that pro-piracy advocates choose to completely gloss over.</p><p></p><p>This person does exist.  He probably exists in your gaming group.  He's probably the guy extremely vocal that Character Builder is going online because he can no longer download updates for it from thepiratebay.org.  He's probably the guy on this forum who advocates buying one month of insider, then downloading everything, and then cancelling the subscription for a few months.  He's probably the guy who advocates downloading PDFs for 'evaluation purposes' and is sitting on one of the leak copies of the PHB, running games of fourth edition, but strangely has decided the book is not worth his purchase.</p><p></p><p>This guy probably even posts in this thread.  You probably even have a few ideas who this guy is.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>One does not need to quantify it to prove it exists.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually:  If the revenue from it goes up (not number of subscribers), while the costs go down (including costs to update, bandwidth and the cost of maintaining the copyrights from downloaded copies), then it is a win.  If the subscriptions go down, but you have to pay less money to keep it going, you still may make more profit from it, and therefore win.</p><p></p><p>Number of subscribers mean nothing when 'subscribe one month, then quit' is one of the problems the new model is meant to curtail.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5376739, member: 71571"] Wrong. It takes one person who says 'I'd rather download than buy the book' to prove the case of lost revenue. This is the elephant in the room, is the existance of this one guy. For all the talk of 'benefits of piracy', this one guy is the guy you have to acknowledge, cause he's the guy who is the center of the argument, and that pro-piracy advocates choose to completely gloss over. This person does exist. He probably exists in your gaming group. He's probably the guy extremely vocal that Character Builder is going online because he can no longer download updates for it from thepiratebay.org. He's probably the guy on this forum who advocates buying one month of insider, then downloading everything, and then cancelling the subscription for a few months. He's probably the guy who advocates downloading PDFs for 'evaluation purposes' and is sitting on one of the leak copies of the PHB, running games of fourth edition, but strangely has decided the book is not worth his purchase. This guy probably even posts in this thread. You probably even have a few ideas who this guy is. One does not need to quantify it to prove it exists. Actually: If the revenue from it goes up (not number of subscribers), while the costs go down (including costs to update, bandwidth and the cost of maintaining the copyrights from downloaded copies), then it is a win. If the subscriptions go down, but you have to pay less money to keep it going, you still may make more profit from it, and therefore win. Number of subscribers mean nothing when 'subscribe one month, then quit' is one of the problems the new model is meant to curtail. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Hasbro makes money, everyone wins
Top