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<blockquote data-quote="GuardianLurker" data-source="post: 9637585" data-attributes="member: 786">So the thing with Haste and extra spells boils down to novas (i.e. blowing everything you have in a few encounters). To counter this:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Quickened spells are expensive, if you're not using the metamagic staves. (Which, come to think of it, might be a 3.5 thing.) If you only allow quickened spells through the metamagic FEATS this will cut down on that problem.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">You also need to REALLY have multiple encounters in an adventuring day, and not let the PCs cut a day short without some hard consequences. Dungeon-crawls with their more restricted rest points are great for this. Another solution are long &quot;chase&quot; encounters; the PC manage to break contact, but they only get 5 rounds or so before the next groups of pursuers manages to find them again.</li>
</ul>Barring those, disallowing spells with Haste is exactly the solution 3.5 (and later) have all taken, so that will do just fine.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GuardianLurker, post: 9637585, member: 786"] So the thing with Haste and extra spells boils down to novas (i.e. blowing everything you have in a few encounters). To counter this: [LIST] [*]Quickened spells are expensive, if you're not using the metamagic staves. (Which, come to think of it, might be a 3.5 thing.) If you only allow quickened spells through the metamagic FEATS this will cut down on that problem. [*]You also need to REALLY have multiple encounters in an adventuring day, and not let the PCs cut a day short without some hard consequences. Dungeon-crawls with their more restricted rest points are great for this. Another solution are long "chase" encounters; the PC manage to break contact, but they only get 5 rounds or so before the next groups of pursuers manages to find them again. [/LIST] Barring those, disallowing spells with Haste is [I]exactly[/I] the solution 3.5 (and later) have all taken, so that will do just fine. [/QUOTE]

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