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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mkletch" data-source="post: 488234" data-attributes="member: 3396">Oh, here we are with the egalitarian "everybody is equal" thing.  I'm sorry, but I have met a few people who were markedly more intelligent, stronger AND charismaric than I.  Then again, I have met many that should not even ... I'll leave it at that that.  The whole "All men are created equal" bit refers to their rights, NOT their abilities.A flat party of completely equal characters is not exciting, it is boring.  Look at books, movies, comics, etc.  There are no 'equality fests'.  Superman, Batman, etc.  Very dissimilar in power, but they still work together, and it is interesting.  Aragorn, hobbits that don't know north from up.  The examples could go on and on.I am actually pretty much through with the races, classes and character creation rules for my new campaign.  By the dice, you could wind up with 20 points for ability point buy, or 36.  You could have a 1st to 6th level character at start.  You could be starting as a character in the "old" age category or a young pup.  All character creation in a vacuum (I'm sure I'll get a party of four rogues and a bard).  And I have some pretty good agreement that an 'unbalanced party' could be exciting.Almost like Baldur's gate.  I would also rule that a permanent item would deprive you of the ability damage as long as it is worn, kind of like a holy or intelligent weapon bestowing negative levels as long as it is wielded by a not-appropriately-aligned character.However, the XP as permanent "cost" has been overdone.  There are absolutely no costs in the game, not even death, that cannot be overcome with nothing more than a little extra effort to catch up, or the snap of a finger by the appropriate spellcaster in your party.  As a DM, there really is nothing 'in the rules' that I can do to inflict a permanent debilitation, cost or curse upon a character that cannot be undone.  This is a failing of the system, and it is worse than any problems with Speed armor.Thanks, 2WS-Steve.  I had pretty much ignored the d20 Modern spells section, but if this is true, I need to give it a good, close read.  It seems to get closer to 'spells of the same level have the same power', something definitely not true in core 3E.-Fletch!</blockquote>

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