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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 489348" data-attributes="member: 5889">Just because a spell is unbalanced, doesn't mean every player will jump to use it, personally that gets boring. Part of the fun of being a wizard is figuring out cool new ways to use your spells.Considering that haste is involved in almost every smackdown in existance, and considering that balance discussions of it come up ALL THE TIME, I definately agree it is one of the most powerful of the 3rd level spells, often times more powerful than 4th or 5th level spells.Why is this? Because while many spells give a percentage increase to a player's power (such as GMW) haste DOUBLES their power. A 9th level spell in a round is very powerful, two 9th level spell are terribly powerful. While most spells give an incremental bonus that improves over time (often reaching some limit) haste just gets better and better the higher up you go.Haste improves every aspect of a character in combat, their move, attack bonus (considering an extra attack is at your highest attack bonus), attack damage (more attacks), AC, spellcasting ability-the list goes on in on. And it never reaches a limit, once you have haste, every little bonus you give to your character is magnified by haste.So yes I believe haste is a broken spell. I also think that many players recognize this, but keep haste as a good spell but don't abuse it. And many players abuse the hell out of it to create smackdowns. How often you use it doesn't matter, its what it can do while used.Personally, I think modifying the extra partial action to just an extra attack is one way, but that makes it only soso for mages which I don't like. You could go the fatique route, giving subdual damage per round of use. I like this the best, it maintains the power of haste but it has a drawback.But whatever you do, I believe the majority of players on the boards recognize the great power of haste, and that something should be done to curve it.</blockquote>

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