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Hatin' the RPGA? (Forked Thread: The real flaw of 3E/3.5E/OGL)
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<blockquote data-quote="Arkobla Conn" data-source="post: 4718339" data-attributes="member: 66071"><p>A couple of thoughts on the RPGA</p><p> </p><p>After being associated with them for almost 10 years, I'm of mixed emotions about the group now.</p><p> </p><p>I played in the 2e and 3e campaigns and loved them both. I've started the 4e campaign and....have really disliked the changes. </p><p> </p><p>It could be my 4e bias (I dislike it more than 3e) but I liked the way Living Greyhawk was administered. No individual Certs (which was sad, but appropriate) but a 'accounting sheet' for each adventure. This seem the easiest way to deal with characters. Since going to 4e, all the accounting is online, and woe be to anyone who can't log in. My sons don't have logins and we can't now figure out how to track their characters. They've been using numbers for years that apparently no one set up. And I've tried contacting the folks who administer this....to no avail. I can't even seem to coordiante getting them a new number without going to a con. (I had been running RPGA events at home with them and their friends as I've passed both versions GM tests)</p><p> </p><p>Gaming at the Cons is a mixed blessing as well. For the record, I firmly believe that RPGA conference folks make up only a portion of the gamer base. They are a different breed of player. There are significant differences to all of the games I play in the RPGA and to all of the games I play home brew...and these changes are almost exclusively tied to the type and personality of the players. </p><p> </p><p>And the move to 4e, at least initially, caused a horrid downturn in the quality of the mods. Add that to the awful use of skill challenges and the over emphasis on combat made for terrible events. </p><p> </p><p>(To be fair, all mods commented upon were year 1 AND the best use of a skill challenge was in one of these mods....I'm talking generalities, not specifics in my comments)</p><p> </p><p>All that said, some of the best folks I've ever gamed with are in the RPGA...and definately the worst. You do make great friends and can have a great time and I think its a part of the community we should have. I am, however, one of those folks who believes that WOTC puts too much emphasis on RPGA style gaming which had a direct correlation to how 4e was designed...which is ultimately why I think 4e is a weaker product than 3e.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkobla Conn, post: 4718339, member: 66071"] A couple of thoughts on the RPGA After being associated with them for almost 10 years, I'm of mixed emotions about the group now. I played in the 2e and 3e campaigns and loved them both. I've started the 4e campaign and....have really disliked the changes. It could be my 4e bias (I dislike it more than 3e) but I liked the way Living Greyhawk was administered. No individual Certs (which was sad, but appropriate) but a 'accounting sheet' for each adventure. This seem the easiest way to deal with characters. Since going to 4e, all the accounting is online, and woe be to anyone who can't log in. My sons don't have logins and we can't now figure out how to track their characters. They've been using numbers for years that apparently no one set up. And I've tried contacting the folks who administer this....to no avail. I can't even seem to coordiante getting them a new number without going to a con. (I had been running RPGA events at home with them and their friends as I've passed both versions GM tests) Gaming at the Cons is a mixed blessing as well. For the record, I firmly believe that RPGA conference folks make up only a portion of the gamer base. They are a different breed of player. There are significant differences to all of the games I play in the RPGA and to all of the games I play home brew...and these changes are almost exclusively tied to the type and personality of the players. And the move to 4e, at least initially, caused a horrid downturn in the quality of the mods. Add that to the awful use of skill challenges and the over emphasis on combat made for terrible events. (To be fair, all mods commented upon were year 1 AND the best use of a skill challenge was in one of these mods....I'm talking generalities, not specifics in my comments) All that said, some of the best folks I've ever gamed with are in the RPGA...and definately the worst. You do make great friends and can have a great time and I think its a part of the community we should have. I am, however, one of those folks who believes that WOTC puts too much emphasis on RPGA style gaming which had a direct correlation to how 4e was designed...which is ultimately why I think 4e is a weaker product than 3e. [/QUOTE]
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