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<blockquote data-quote="Ravellion" data-source="post: 3503383" data-attributes="member: 538">I think you're putting words in someone else's mouth. That &quot;non-optimized roleplay, as you've chosen to label it&quot;, might or might not be the same as &quot;immersive roleplaying&quot;.To me, someone who roleplay's immersively, really gets into character, whether that character is optimized or not. On the other side of the fence, there exists a creature known as the &quot;non-optimized roleplayer&quot;, that will deliberately build a severely hampered character, with some sob story attached to why life has been so hard on him, and hence is a complete deadweight in the party socially and in combat. Often his or her complete and utter failures will give him the spotlight he or she desires. I always wonder if they aren't just focus hogs that couldn't build characters well enough to upstage the other players that way, so they go in the opposite direction. Seeing as this generally greatly reduces the fun in pretty much everyone else's game, I consider this to be bad.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ravellion, post: 3503383, member: 538"] I think you're putting words in someone else's mouth. That "non-optimized roleplay, as you've chosen to label it", might or might not be the same as "immersive roleplaying". To me, someone who roleplay's immersively, really gets into character, whether that character is optimized or not. On the other side of the fence, there exists a creature known as the "non-optimized roleplayer", that will deliberately build a severely hampered character, with some sob story attached to why life has been so hard on him, and hence is a complete deadweight in the party socially and in combat. Often his or her complete and utter failures will give him the spotlight he or she desires. I always wonder if they aren't just focus hogs that couldn't build characters well enough to upstage the other players that way, so they go in the opposite direction. Seeing as this generally greatly reduces the fun in pretty much everyone else's game, I consider this to be bad. [/QUOTE]

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