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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3504986" data-attributes="member: 30001">Seems reasonable to me that you should play a character that you enjoy.&nbsp; There are plenty of people on this board that have posted statements to the effect that &quot;the guy playing the clumsy oaf is going to get us all killed&quot;.&nbsp; Some powergamers seem to be resentful when everyone else isn't playing like they are.But the music analogy here is sort of funny and ironic because I don't think a lot of musicians would necessarily see the relationship between building a powerful character and music.&nbsp; Just ask a jazz musician about &quot;right notes&quot;.&nbsp; If you want to spend your time working on the technical aspects of music, nobody should criticize that, but you can't expect to join a band and find other people to be amazed by your Malmstein-like virtuosity - especially if you won't stop shredding long enough to listen to what other people are playing.&nbsp; I think when people criticize the opposing side of this issue they're usually thinking of the worst examples.What's impressive though?&nbsp; It's not all that impressive to lift a large rock when you have a +200 strength bonus?&nbsp; It's really takes extreme amounts of suspension of disbelief to look at a character sheet for a 20th level character and not think that killing 1,000 orcs is normal (even a little mundane).&nbsp; So then you have to run out and get the Epic Level handbook, and so on.&nbsp; At it's worst it's the anatomy of a Monty Haul game.&nbsp; What's impressive to me is a 1st level commoner killing a red dragon - but that's never what power gamers mean.&nbsp; They always seem to mean &quot;give me enough power so that the red dragon is like a kobold relative to me, then I'll fight it and that will be impressive&quot;.&nbsp; Ok.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3504986, member: 30001"] Seems reasonable to me that you should play a character that you enjoy. There are plenty of people on this board that have posted statements to the effect that "the guy playing the clumsy oaf is going to get us all killed". Some powergamers seem to be resentful when everyone else isn't playing like they are. But the music analogy here is sort of funny and ironic because I don't think a lot of musicians would necessarily see the relationship between building a powerful character and music. Just ask a jazz musician about "right notes". If you want to spend your time working on the technical aspects of music, nobody should criticize that, but you can't expect to join a band and find other people to be amazed by your Malmstein-like virtuosity - especially if you won't stop shredding long enough to listen to what other people are playing. I think when people criticize the opposing side of this issue they're usually thinking of the worst examples. What's impressive though? It's not all that impressive to lift a large rock when you have a +200 strength bonus? It's really takes extreme amounts of suspension of disbelief to look at a character sheet for a 20th level character and not think that killing 1,000 orcs is normal (even a little mundane). So then you have to run out and get the Epic Level handbook, and so on. At it's worst it's the anatomy of a Monty Haul game. What's impressive to me is a 1st level commoner killing a red dragon - but that's never what power gamers mean. They always seem to mean "give me enough power so that the red dragon is like a kobold relative to me, then I'll fight it and that will be impressive". Ok. :) [/QUOTE]

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