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<blockquote data-quote="Odhanan" data-source="post: 3510953" data-attributes="member: 12324">It seems to me that the prime argument for this is the time factor. If a player is interested in power-gaming, then he spends less time immersed in-character. For me, the argument is faulty from the start, because power-gaming and immersion aren't the only two activities around the game table. What about time spent eating snacks? The pauses? Moving around miniatures? The DM describing the environment? The time spent scratching hit points off the character sheet? Looking up how much you've got in Gather Information? Rolling dice? All these things and more consume time around the game table. Fact is, I don't think that one activity just stops in favor of another: they all blend into the experience that is a role-playing game. When I paint a miniature, I think about the personality of the character I'm painting and how to represent that with colors and appearance. The same way, when I'm using Power Attack in-game, I'm thinking of the anger of my character and his lack of control over himself, AS WELL AS how much damage he'll end up doing. These things don't have to be opposites. The fact you can do both at the same time demonstrates the lack of logic of this dichotomy gamers keep seeing between power-gaming and role-playing immersion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Odhanan, post: 3510953, member: 12324"] It seems to me that the prime argument for this is the time factor. If a player is interested in power-gaming, then he spends less time immersed in-character. For me, the argument is faulty from the start, because power-gaming and immersion aren't the only two activities around the game table. What about time spent eating snacks? The pauses? Moving around miniatures? The DM describing the environment? The time spent scratching hit points off the character sheet? Looking up how much you've got in Gather Information? Rolling dice? All these things and more consume time around the game table. Fact is, I don't think that one activity just stops in favor of another: they all blend into the experience that is a role-playing game. When I paint a miniature, I think about the personality of the character I'm painting and how to represent that with colors and appearance. The same way, when I'm using Power Attack in-game, I'm thinking of the anger of my character and his lack of control over himself, AS WELL AS how much damage he'll end up doing. These things don't have to be opposites. The fact you can do both at the same time demonstrates the lack of logic of this dichotomy gamers keep seeing between power-gaming and role-playing immersion. [/QUOTE]

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