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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4442618" data-attributes="member: 35909">One of my favorite campaigns ever, done in Eberron, had no arcanist in the party at all, unless an assassin counts.&nbsp; I was a Changeling Rogue who focused on charisma skills, including UMD, and ended up serving as the party arcanist.&nbsp; We DID have a psion, but he really shouldn't count, due to sledom being helpful.&nbsp; The character was a chicken, and the player RPed it well, blowing almost all his PP every day on AC and defense boosters.&nbsp; We did have a cleric and druid, so there was other caster support.&nbsp; Party worked fine, aside from our RP disfunctions (cowardly psion; druid on numerous occasions effectively walking off the battlefield cause he didn't think we should be fighting who we were; me and the assassin hated each other's guts, with him constantly trying to bully me and my fondest memory being when I got dominated and told to kill him, so I could finally beat the crap out of him w/o getting in trouble with the party...)Soon as my next campaign starts, it will be gestalt, with no sorc/wiz at all.&nbsp; I'm doing cloistered cleric on one side, heading for Shadowcraft Mage, so later on I'll be able to pretend I'm an Evoker or Summoner pretty darn well.&nbsp; Also will have a Favored Soul, another palying a Bard (going into Warchanter, so he'll stop progressing as a caster), and a 4th person entering into assassin.&nbsp; So, fairly good divine casting, very little arcane.&nbsp; I think it'll work out just fine.Finally, it really shouldn't count, but the way the OP asked it... I was in a Final Fantasy styled game once, where there were no Wizards.&nbsp; At all.&nbsp; Party had two Black Mages (Sorc), one Red Mage (modified Bard), one White Mage (bastardized hybrid of favored soul and healer), and one Fighter (guess what class?).&nbsp; So, the party had arcana overload, but per the OP's question, had no &quot;wizards.&quot;&nbsp; That party did just fine.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 4442618, member: 35909"] One of my favorite campaigns ever, done in Eberron, had no arcanist in the party at all, unless an assassin counts. I was a Changeling Rogue who focused on charisma skills, including UMD, and ended up serving as the party arcanist. We DID have a psion, but he really shouldn't count, due to sledom being helpful. The character was a chicken, and the player RPed it well, blowing almost all his PP every day on AC and defense boosters. We did have a cleric and druid, so there was other caster support. Party worked fine, aside from our RP disfunctions (cowardly psion; druid on numerous occasions effectively walking off the battlefield cause he didn't think we should be fighting who we were; me and the assassin hated each other's guts, with him constantly trying to bully me and my fondest memory being when I got dominated and told to kill him, so I could finally beat the crap out of him w/o getting in trouble with the party...) Soon as my next campaign starts, it will be gestalt, with no sorc/wiz at all. I'm doing cloistered cleric on one side, heading for Shadowcraft Mage, so later on I'll be able to pretend I'm an Evoker or Summoner pretty darn well. Also will have a Favored Soul, another palying a Bard (going into Warchanter, so he'll stop progressing as a caster), and a 4th person entering into assassin. So, fairly good divine casting, very little arcane. I think it'll work out just fine. Finally, it really shouldn't count, but the way the OP asked it... I was in a Final Fantasy styled game once, where there were no Wizards. At all. Party had two Black Mages (Sorc), one Red Mage (modified Bard), one White Mage (bastardized hybrid of favored soul and healer), and one Fighter (guess what class?). So, the party had arcana overload, but per the OP's question, had no "wizards." That party did just fine. :) [/QUOTE]

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