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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8127954" data-attributes="member: 93670">Alice makes one attack/round with 100% of her damage.&nbsp; Bob makes 2 3 4 or more attacks that combined add up to 100% of his damage. Bob does more total damage.&nbsp; Until they need to roll above ten the odds are in bob's favor &amp; alice takes a larger hit to her damage.&nbsp; Accuracy &amp; the ability to play the odds is not something you can imply dismiss in this kind of thing.&nbsp; The fact that bob is more likely to have a +N weapon than alice a +N focus due to wotc's own adventure design &amp; influences means that the breakpoint for bob is going to be significantly above tenPoint two is critical and DiA proves that it is&nbsp; both a valid &amp; severe harm to casters rather than just a &quot;situational&quot; aberration.&nbsp; As to your &quot;They could fight giants&quot;&nbsp; is a bizarre hill for your dismissal to die on as well, did you even look at their statblocks? None of the MM giants have a resist nonmagical b/p/s&nbsp; yet there is a giant that bears immune to fire, one&nbsp; immune to cold,&nbsp; &amp;&nbsp; one immune to lightning/thunder.&nbsp; If you wanted to dismiss the relevance of energy resist/immune you should at least have tried to find a group of monsters not bearing immune to some of the more common energy damage types used by casters when trying to claim energy resist/imune are not used excessiveluPoint three... No seriously the list is like&nbsp; a few other plants such as awakened tree, the guy in DiA that gives you the magic +1d6 fire to all your weapons gauntlets&quot;, &amp; some low cr swarms you will probably consider a threat at low levels were it is unlikely&nbsp; to have magic weapons .&nbsp; I'm not saying you couldn't find some others, but they are so incredibly rare that your point is absurd.Point four is also critical because it takes what should be a ludicrous &quot;your gm sucks bro, time to have a talk&quot; situation &amp; presses it into the form of a hardcover first party 250 page&nbsp; hardcover adventure published by the industry leader for the industry leading ttrpg for GM's who don't know better to use</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8127954, member: 93670"] Alice makes one attack/round with 100% of her damage. Bob makes 2 3 4 or more attacks that combined add up to 100% of his damage. Bob does more total damage. Until they need to roll above ten the odds are in bob's favor & alice takes a larger hit to her damage. Accuracy & the ability to play the odds is not something you can imply dismiss in this kind of thing. The fact that bob is more likely to have a +N weapon than alice a +N focus due to wotc's own adventure design & influences means that the breakpoint for bob is going to be [I]significantly[/I] above ten Point two is critical and DiA proves that it is both a valid & severe harm to casters rather than just a "situational" aberration. As to your "They could fight giants" is a bizarre hill for your dismissal to die on as well, did you even look at their statblocks? None of the MM giants have a resist nonmagical b/p/s yet there is a giant that bears immune to fire, one immune to cold, & one immune to lightning/thunder. If you wanted to dismiss the relevance of energy resist/immune you should at least have tried to find a group of monsters not bearing immune to some of the more common energy damage types used by casters when trying to claim energy resist/imune are not used excessivelu Point three... No seriously the list is like a few other plants such as awakened tree, the guy in DiA that gives you the magic +1d6 fire to all your weapons gauntlets", & some low cr swarms you will probably consider a threat at low levels were it is unlikely to have magic weapons . I'm not saying you couldn't find some others, but they are so incredibly rare that your point is absurd. Point four is also critical because it takes what should be a ludicrous "your gm sucks bro, time to have a talk" situation & presses it into the form of a hardcover first party 250 page hardcover adventure published by the industry leader for the industry leading ttrpg for GM's who don't know better to use [/QUOTE]

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