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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 1730755" data-attributes="member: 4275">Well as for never having heard of us, we primarily make d20 Modern products. If you don't play that game or spend a lot of time in the d20 forum you probably won't have heard of us.However we have gotten a lot of great reviews and been nominated for 6 Ennies in the last two years, so it seems like a reasonably active ENWorlder would have heard of us. As for an overabundance of companies being an "industry fault" and "leading the industry to doom"...Well in the first place there isn't a membership card to start a small business. Your comments about how in most businesses you prove you can make money is just balderdash.People open small businesses with their own money all the time.And most of those businesses will fail.However some grow and thrive. Its called the american way. Apple was started in a garage by some buys welding circuit boards. By your standards, since they couldn't prove their ability to make money, someone should have stopped them.RPG companies are failing, and they are succeeding too. It isnt the market's fault and it doesn't mean that everyone below the success level of Green Ronin or Mongoose is "one of those d20 companies that are failing".Also a heads up on another aspect of your post- if you think the SATURATION is bad- that isnt the fault of the small publishers.Compare the number of products made yearly by Green Ronin, Mongoose, and WOTC to the products made by smaller publishers.RPGOjects averages 4-6 print books ayear. But to listen to some people talk every small publisher that goes under is a gleeful event and good for the marketplace. Chuck</blockquote>

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