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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mind of tempest" data-source="post: 8875989" data-attributes="member: 7029233">but why is it supernaturally evil in the first place?there is no conflict on elf life span, heck there are media settings where that is the case.people fear robots reproducing in real life as people fear being usurped and all we did being for nothing, classic Frankenstein stuff.my point is what is the fear of defying nature that thing which is an endless parade of violence and suffering?where in mythology is undead pure hate the living kill on sight?normally it is all about not being buried leads to the restless dead, others by making pacts with evil to cheat death, good never seems to offer much in the way of power for some reason which always bugged me as otherwise evil would long term win and drive good to extinction.saying you can change it in your own campaign is not an argument it is a thought termination point it is saying this does not matter stop talking about it, nothing we do on this site and most of what we do off it is irrelevant and not productive does not mean we should just stop and go back to working instead.look what makes it evil if some gods say x thing is bad that would rapidly make everything evil as some god is against everythingdnd gods are a reflection of real-life moral codes and given the sire variety of them even something like charity has been seen as wrong.cosmic morality makes no sense without the backing axioms that explain what good is otherwise good develops into a divine popularity contest which would be worthless.secondly, your telling me the wizard who hurls acid or toxic gas and the one-man divine butcher that is most paladins who go through life like a merger between a tornado and slaughterhouse is better you want to be technical all almost every action nowadays would be evil rendering morality pointless.honestly yeah most people use it as a crutch to make something they feel rebels against the norm or are just doing it to justify their murderhobo desires, to kill the written text for it so they have to figure out how to do it properly.</blockquote>

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