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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenobi65" data-source="post: 1618778" data-attributes="member: 1515">And, even then, it's not 25 attacks; the Cleave is (at least in my cinematic view) one attack that follows through to one (or more, with Great Cleave) additional target(s).  Think Sauron at the beginning of the FotR movie, whacking a half-dozen men with each swing of his mace.  It's not swing-whack, swing-whack, swing-whack, etc.; it's one mighty swing-WHACK!  If you view it that way, at least it makes a little more sense from the standpoint of a 6-second combat round.  (Then again, this *is* supposed to be heroic fantasy; I don't play D&D for gritty realism.)Assuming you're not going into Epic levels, about the best I can come up with (for a normal humanoid) is 7 attacks in a round:-16th+ level fighter type, with 4 iterative attacks with his main weapon- Improved Two-Weapon Fighting for 2 more attacks with the off-hand weapon- Haste (or an equivalent buff) for one extra attack during a full-attack actionThough, I'm sure there's a feat or ability buried somewhere in one of the books that'll add another attack or two to that...(edit: OK, I did forget about Combat Reflexes.  So, with the 20 Dex guy, that'd give a total of 13 possible attacks.  If I'm DMing, and I've got 20 guys surrounding a spiked-chain wielder, and he mows 'em all down in one attack flurry, I think my monsters are going to think twice about entering his threatened squares. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> )Mike Mistele</blockquote>

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