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Message: <blockquote data-quote="William Ronald" data-source="post: 2418469" data-attributes="member: 426">I am in a somewhat similar position, as it seemed that FR dominated 2nd Edition -- even impacting the rules.  (Divine avatars being an example.) Plus, many of the 2nd edition books seemed to require the use of other books.  So, I thought that and the emphasis on NPCs was a problem.I think one of the problems with Elminster and many of the other FR NPCs is that little of their personality or history comes out in their descriptions in the FRCS. Perhaps the reasons we don't hear so much grumbling about Mordenkainen, Tenser,  Bigby, Rary, and Robilar from the World of Greyhawk is that their adventures were detailed in part in Dragon Magazine and in the various Greyhawk products.  (For example, Lord Robilar and Rary unwittingly freed the evil demigod Iuz, who was fought by Rary, Lord Robilar, and Tenser the Archmage as I recall.)  Now , the focus of the Realms is on the player characters -- who can be the movers and shakers of the world.I think that the regional feats, the trade maps in the FRCS, and some other additions have helped flesh out the Realms.  As for the deity issue, I do agree that the Realms pantheons are a bit of a mish-mash.  However, in our own world there was often a great deal of diversity in the gods worshipped.  Ultimately, I think that it is up to the DM and the players to make a campaign setting their own.  If you want to make changes, go ahead.  Elminster can die or be turned into a much lower-powered sage.  (I remember Darkness saying he did this with the Realms.)  Also, it may be a good idea for powerful PCs to ultimately take over the tasks now assigned to the NPCs.  It may be a party of PCs that proves to be the ultimate undoing of several of the greatest villains of the Forgotten Reamls.</blockquote>

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