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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy E Grenemyer" data-source="post: 2426090" data-attributes="member: 12388"><p><strong>Round 2, so to speak...</strong></p><p></p><p>Hell, I've been playing in the Realms since the old Grey Box came out. I daresay I’ve an informed opinion on the subject. Here goes…</p><p></p><p>All things considered, I think the Realms are at their best right now. It's got solid sourcebooks that:</p><p></p><p>*Don't meander to far into the "we love the Realms for the Realms/you don't just have to play DnD in the Realms to love The Realms/please tell us how many warts Durnan has on his ass --cause that's super-important lore that all true Realms Fans <em>really</em> need to know" mindset.</p><p></p><p>*Have a whole hell of a lot more flavor and Relevant-to-the-DM lore than many who'd call themselves old-school Realms fans would care to admit.</p><p></p><p>*Have very smartly removed in-place setting restrictions, such as the ban on the use of high level magic, "Chosen Only" magic and 'Elven High Mage Class Information and their magic that PC's can't ever become or ever hope to use', etc...</p><p></p><p>*Include Prestige Classes in exactly the manner they were meant to be used.</p><p></p><p>*No longer support all the intra-planar Planescape garbage; instead we finally get a Cosmology that is entirely specific to the Realms, with no rupture to the major lore and with no restriction on connectivity to the Great Wheel or anywhere else, if a DM wants to use (or continue using) such in his or her game.</p><p></p><p>*Got rid of TSR's Kitchen Sink approach to world design. No longer must we suffer from the, "If it's in ADnD, it's in the Realms" approach.</p><p></p><p> Well, other than Dragon and Dungeon I've not seen much support for Greyhawk, so I don't know if I can comment relative to that setting. Well yes I can: I’m more happy with the Realms than Greyhawk (the later needs more support, where feasible).</p><p></p><p>As for Eberron, well I'm as happy with it as the Realms. Eberron’s got lots in it that can be ported over to the Realms. They're both good settings in my book, and I hope they both appeal to a wide set of the gaming audience and last a very long time.</p><p></p><p> With the setting I’m quite as happy as before, though nothing can replace the sense of wonder I felt when I cracked open the Grey Box and read about such a fantastic place as the Realms…from Elminster’s warning on the veracity of the words found in the DM’s Guide to the Realms and the Realms Cyclopedia, to the cool color and texture of those faux-yellow, scroll-like pages, to the maps and descriptions for Lashan’s Fall and the Halls of the Beast Tamers below Myth Drannor…</p><p></p><p>I’m still as unhappy as ever with all the rabid fanboys.</p><p></p><p>From those who claim, "Whatever they changed they did because some jerk game designer didn't like this or that about the Realms; it's not like they based their decisions on market research or bothered to sample the fanbase or anything like that" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> to those who down the years have kissed up to various writers and authors, then bashed whatever Realmslore they gleaned from them over other people’s heads…I’m talking about the, “Ed says <em>this</em>, which means it’s Canon, so that’s just how it is no matter what you say or do in your piddly little campaign.”</p><p></p><p>I just wish those idiots would realize it’s exactly what happens in piddly little campaigns that’s kept the Realms alive for so long….</p><p></p><p>J. Grenemyer</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy E Grenemyer, post: 2426090, member: 12388"] [b]Round 2, so to speak...[/b] Hell, I've been playing in the Realms since the old Grey Box came out. I daresay I’ve an informed opinion on the subject. Here goes… All things considered, I think the Realms are at their best right now. It's got solid sourcebooks that: *Don't meander to far into the "we love the Realms for the Realms/you don't just have to play DnD in the Realms to love The Realms/please tell us how many warts Durnan has on his ass --cause that's super-important lore that all true Realms Fans [i]really[/i] need to know" mindset. *Have a whole hell of a lot more flavor and Relevant-to-the-DM lore than many who'd call themselves old-school Realms fans would care to admit. *Have very smartly removed in-place setting restrictions, such as the ban on the use of high level magic, "Chosen Only" magic and 'Elven High Mage Class Information and their magic that PC's can't ever become or ever hope to use', etc... *Include Prestige Classes in exactly the manner they were meant to be used. *No longer support all the intra-planar Planescape garbage; instead we finally get a Cosmology that is entirely specific to the Realms, with no rupture to the major lore and with no restriction on connectivity to the Great Wheel or anywhere else, if a DM wants to use (or continue using) such in his or her game. *Got rid of TSR's Kitchen Sink approach to world design. No longer must we suffer from the, "If it's in ADnD, it's in the Realms" approach. Well, other than Dragon and Dungeon I've not seen much support for Greyhawk, so I don't know if I can comment relative to that setting. Well yes I can: I’m more happy with the Realms than Greyhawk (the later needs more support, where feasible). As for Eberron, well I'm as happy with it as the Realms. Eberron’s got lots in it that can be ported over to the Realms. They're both good settings in my book, and I hope they both appeal to a wide set of the gaming audience and last a very long time. With the setting I’m quite as happy as before, though nothing can replace the sense of wonder I felt when I cracked open the Grey Box and read about such a fantastic place as the Realms…from Elminster’s warning on the veracity of the words found in the DM’s Guide to the Realms and the Realms Cyclopedia, to the cool color and texture of those faux-yellow, scroll-like pages, to the maps and descriptions for Lashan’s Fall and the Halls of the Beast Tamers below Myth Drannor… I’m still as unhappy as ever with all the rabid fanboys. From those who claim, "Whatever they changed they did because some jerk game designer didn't like this or that about the Realms; it's not like they based their decisions on market research or bothered to sample the fanbase or anything like that" :confused: to those who down the years have kissed up to various writers and authors, then bashed whatever Realmslore they gleaned from them over other people’s heads…I’m talking about the, “Ed says [I]this[/I], which means it’s Canon, so that’s just how it is no matter what you say or do in your piddly little campaign.” I just wish those idiots would realize it’s exactly what happens in piddly little campaigns that’s kept the Realms alive for so long…. J. Grenemyer [/QUOTE]
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