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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 3283251" data-attributes="member: 1879">Of course part of the problem of balance is that there is vast disagreement over what balance is.Some people think 'go all day' classes like the warlock or Bo9s classes are unbalanced. Others think spell point classes that can shoot their wad in 1 big combat are broken. Vancian classes are rarely accused of being unbalanced (barring meta-magic rods) but are also widely viewed as unsatisfactory.Some people think role balanceing is fine, IE a fighter should shine is combat and suck in social situations, vice versa for a bard. Others don't like any player missing out during part of the game.Versatility is usually 'balanced' by weakness (except for the druid), allowing the character to be equally feeble at everything. So before anything can be balanced you first have to define balance. And then you need to fight off the horde of people or disagree with you.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>