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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8802256" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>As you note, these things are associated with a <em>sense</em> of coldness, but not a verified drop in temperature. Despite what we see in the movies and TV, such experiences don't usually happen in sight of a thermometer. </p><p></p><p>So, we then are in the realm of speaking not of actual temperature change, but in the <em>perception</em> of same. And human perception is complicated. The body and the mind are not fully separable. Things that impact the mind impact the body, and vice versa.</p><p></p><p>When you are cold, a person tends to pull their limbs in, their shoulders tense up, scrunching up to the ears, and so on. This body posture we use to hold in body heat is extremely similar to the body posture we take when we are afraid - defensively drawing in to protect the body and appear to be less of a threat.</p><p></p><p>In some abuse survivors, we then see an effect of being cold <em>bringing on anxiety</em>. The body takes on the same body posture as fear, and so the mind reacts with fear. This can work the other way too, in which anxiety is <em>interpreted as cold</em> by the conscious mind.</p><p></p><p>If you want, though, I could crunch some numbers, and see how much heat energy there is to steal out of a room's air, and how much could then happen with that energy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8802256, member: 177"] As you note, these things are associated with a [I]sense[/I] of coldness, but not a verified drop in temperature. Despite what we see in the movies and TV, such experiences don't usually happen in sight of a thermometer. So, we then are in the realm of speaking not of actual temperature change, but in the [I]perception[/I] of same. And human perception is complicated. The body and the mind are not fully separable. Things that impact the mind impact the body, and vice versa. When you are cold, a person tends to pull their limbs in, their shoulders tense up, scrunching up to the ears, and so on. This body posture we use to hold in body heat is extremely similar to the body posture we take when we are afraid - defensively drawing in to protect the body and appear to be less of a threat. In some abuse survivors, we then see an effect of being cold [I]bringing on anxiety[/I]. The body takes on the same body posture as fear, and so the mind reacts with fear. This can work the other way too, in which anxiety is [I]interpreted as cold[/I] by the conscious mind. If you want, though, I could crunch some numbers, and see how much heat energy there is to steal out of a room's air, and how much could then happen with that energy. [/QUOTE]
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