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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vael" data-source="post: 9116458" data-attributes="member: 57043">Perfectly fine. I never had an issue with Essentials. TBH, having a simple, ready to go class like the Slayer did a lot to make 4e more approachable, as I have had the "I just want to attack" players that did not care for 4e powers, who just loved the Slayer. It's been awhile, but I think I can remember having a Pre-Essentials and Essential Rogue in the same party and not seeing a major difference between them.I've found 4e's balance point quite good, you really couldn't build a completely ineffectual character unless you tried, which was a blessing after 3.5. So even the weaker, less supported classes, your Runepriests, Assassins, Seekers and Vampires could still hang and work well.</blockquote>