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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arnwyn" data-source="post: 3288268" data-attributes="member: 7701">I don't want to say "dependent", but I certainly use CRs more than anything else when planning encounters. However, I still quickly look at the monsters' stat blocks - and the design of 3e has allowed me to more quickly (than in the past) see how an encounter will likely play out. There have been some goofy CRs of certain monsters in 3.x (*cough*MM3*cough*) and I've ignored class-based CRs from Day 1. (I'm surprised people are still talking about it now - it was a big "NO DUH" to me right from the very start.)(In the old days, I didn't use HD - I used the XP value as the basis in my 'appropriate challenge' analysis. It wasn't great (read: terrible), but it was a start, and much better than HD. 1e/2e certainly took me much longer to determine how tough an encounter would be (since I had to pretty much read the entire entry to see if there were any wahoo powers) and I made more errors in a shorter amount of time than I do now [in which errors are virtually non-existent in my 3e games].)</blockquote>