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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4691511" data-attributes="member: 5038">I have only had one player that character dumped in twenty plus years of DMing.  It was back in 2e and it did become disruptive.These days, I will allow a player to make character changes or tweaks within the first few adventures.  I would, probably, allow them to retire a character once without penalizing the player.  If they deliberatelly killed off a character, the new character would come back with a penalty. And, someone  routinely attempted to  dump characters would  be asked to leave and not invited back.I think  that dumping has not been a problem with the people with whom I have played are:1. Not everything published is allowed.  The DMs take the time to consider the races and classes that they allow for the campaign prior to the players making characters for the campaign.  For the most part, the players pretty much know the options up front so the latest shiny race or class to appear in a supplement is not going to be a temptation, because the DM is most likely not going to be allowed unless it either a) better represents the DM's idea of how an existing race or class should work mechanically for the setting ;or b) it is  something that the DM wanted in their world, but there were no mechanics for it.  Usually, this is the case for specific classes.2. The focus of the game is on the characters not the dungeon or monster of the week.  Characters get subplots  that come to the foreground with adventures based around them.3. The people I have played with are not focused on powergaming (and, before anyone says that they would simply play a Cleric, Druid or Wizard in such a game, those classes get nerfed).  So, if your character sucks, it is most likely not for mechanical reasons, but the personality you gave it and how you play it.  I am not saying that there is anything wrong with powergaming with the right group, but it is not an area of primary interest and, therefore, we don't play with such people unless they conform to our playstyle.</blockquote>

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