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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 6046855" data-attributes="member: 3424"><p>Absolutely agreed. In my view, the base 4e system was the most balanced, flexible and robust that we have seen to date. Given time, I'm sure that it would have been able to develop modules and sub-systems to emulate most of the features of past editions, such as wizards with only daily spells (Essentials already had fighters and rogues without daily attacks; this would simply be going in the opposite direction) and the ability to mix and match attack and utility abilities.</p><p></p><p>The most disaffecting aspect of the complaints about 4e (at least to me) was that the majority seemed to me to be about elements that were added to the game and could be removed with minimal effort. Don't like dragonborn and eladrin? Don't have them in your campaign. Don't like martial healing? Remove the warlord class, the ability to spend healing surges during a short rest and the Second Wind action. Don't like minions? There are plenty of other monsters to choose from. Don't like specific powers? Tell the player to pick another one.</p><p></p><p>The most troubling aspect of this exclusionary mentality is that it will likely torpedo any attempt at "unification". </p><p></p><p>Ah, whatever. I'm sure that at the end of the playtest process, the majority of gamers will end up with <em>exactly</em> the edition that they deserve.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 6046855, member: 3424"] Absolutely agreed. In my view, the base 4e system was the most balanced, flexible and robust that we have seen to date. Given time, I'm sure that it would have been able to develop modules and sub-systems to emulate most of the features of past editions, such as wizards with only daily spells (Essentials already had fighters and rogues without daily attacks; this would simply be going in the opposite direction) and the ability to mix and match attack and utility abilities. The most disaffecting aspect of the complaints about 4e (at least to me) was that the majority seemed to me to be about elements that were added to the game and could be removed with minimal effort. Don't like dragonborn and eladrin? Don't have them in your campaign. Don't like martial healing? Remove the warlord class, the ability to spend healing surges during a short rest and the Second Wind action. Don't like minions? There are plenty of other monsters to choose from. Don't like specific powers? Tell the player to pick another one. The most troubling aspect of this exclusionary mentality is that it will likely torpedo any attempt at "unification". Ah, whatever. I'm sure that at the end of the playtest process, the majority of gamers will end up with [I]exactly[/I] the edition that they deserve. [/QUOTE]
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